I only apologised for adding an unnecessary lingo as it transpired. I didnt know the radikal made it redundant. The lp12 now has so many kludges ... sorry I mean upgrades ... that I get lost in all of this scam.
You own an lp12 right? I bet you wouldn't recognise a proper scientist if one bit you on the nose
0.55Hz, to be pedantic.It could be a 33 hz component due to the disc eccentricity
Its just an audio forum not a dissertation and it doesn't materially affect any argument here
Its still a ridiculous price for what is on offer
Its just an audio forum not a dissertation and it doesn't materially affect any argument here
Its still a ridiculous price for what is on offer
No-one is misleading anyone I was just unaware the radikal meant the lingo was no longer required. I just looked at the price and totted up the options. My mistake has been noted and corrected and I am suitably shame faced in this regard. However, it makes a small difference to the top spec linn cost that does not affect any of my arguments. No need to be pedantic
People are prepared to pay that much and at that level relative performance means the lp12 is very over priced and an archaic design
Its nothing to do with any ability to measure it is just a slight ignorance regarding the latest lp12 upgrade. Something I don't pay great attention to. You and Neil are clutching at straws
That was 25k for the whisky cask nonsense. Lets forget that
Jek keeps on stating as fact that the LP12 is now £20k.
Here are the prices and the options:
Majik LP12 (includes Adikt Cartridge) = £2,700
Linn LP12, Lingo, Akito, Adikt = £5,105
Linn LP12, Keel, Radikal, Ekos SE, Adikt = £11,340
Linn LP12, Keel, Radikal, Ekos SE, Urika, Kandid = £15,650
Of this final option, the tonearm (Ekos SE) ), phonostage (Urika) and cartridge (Kandid) represent £8,655 of the total £15,650 cost.
Its nothing to do with any ability to measure it is just a slight ignorance regarding the latest lp12 upgrade. Something I don't pay great attention to. You and Neil are clutching at straws.
What about a turntable that costs the same sounds better and doesn't require constant fettling and nurturing and tweaking and upgrading? Isn't that better still?
If I was to sell my deck now I would likely get more than I paid for it and with no service costs whatsoever over ten years.
My point is that for the same outlay you can get vastly better sound and build quality with less BS. Or you can get the same sound for much less money than an lp12. Take your pick.
Myself and a good friend heard an an A/B dem of a seismic sink vs a good but pretty standard isolation table , we both thought thought it sounded worse with the seismic sink .
Not what we expected .
Was it a suspended deck?
I tried TSS stand v mana and the TSS was easily better
For a turntable with no suspension I'm not surprised. The Mana support was designed to be used with a LP12.
They claim if you add enough phases it will work with anything
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Jek, how could you have even tried a Mana support with your turntable, it's too wide to even fit?
the foot print of contact underneath isn't so big you just have to let the platter jut over the edge of the table
I see, so how many phases were tried for your test?
Mana reference. Dont hold with that phase 27 nonsense. Bubs speakers are like the leaning tower of pisa!
It's nice to find out that Jek, who has been slagging off Mana users for years, based on his attempt to use his non-suspended deck on phase two. I know where to file that information.
I had a suspended deck before and it was that deck I bough the mana for. Lets not jump to conclusions
One very minor mistake.
You forgot the machined from solid option which I included