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Multi-function football thread 2019/20 season II

Discussion in 'off topic' started by ks.234, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    Arsenal seem to know how to win FA Cups, Chelsea a bit meh and dodgy decisions aside, didn't look good enough. By the way Brian, I see yet another potential buyer has got a sight of Ashley's accounts, you must despair that you'll never be rid of him.
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    I will not believe anything about any deals until it is reported as done and the parasite has gone.

    At least I’m one of the small number of Newcastle fans who saw us win the Fairs Cup in ‘69. I’m luckier than many.
     
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  3. adamk

    adamk pfm Member

    Ref had a poor game but injuries did for Chelsea.

    Any chance VAR can work better next season (don’t really understand when it can and can’t be used - a review of today’s second yellow for starters)
     
  4. roman

    roman pfm Member

    Fair enough, it should have been.

    I've since heard on the radio there is a photo showing the ball over the line. The footage on the been showed otherwise. For now I'm sticking with my version of events!
     
  5. wyjsar

    wyjsar Nothing but heart

    Surely that's the point. It's borderline. There's a photo showing the ball over the line... probably a few others showing that it's not. It spoils it. Not just for the spectator, for the fan, for the player, for the ref. Let the decision stand unless one team wants to chance a review on it, knowing that they have a limited number of reviews. Who wants to have to wait for a verdict that could take minutes for an unlimited number of decisions, taking away momentum from one team or the other?
    Football is a game, not a science. Just like any other game. It cannot be judged on clinical margins, that takes away half of the post game drink in the pub, the element of chance, the "we woz robbed", the "we got lucky". It takes away the celebration. It renders the whole thing soulless.
    Get VAR to avoid the obvious mistakes - yes. But don't take away my enjoyment of this or any other game.
     
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  6. roman

    roman pfm Member

    I think you just need to get rid of it. There will always be borderline decisions. By moving things along to obvious mistakes don't you just create a new border between obvious and less obvious?
     
  7. Alex S

    Alex S carbon based lifeform

    Yeah, quite good. It was Arsenal’s day; usually is against Chelsea in cup finals. (Please allow me this rare moment of smugness).
     
  8. christray

    christray pfm Member

    You do watch modern football? It was an observation on the subject. Not just today's game.
    Your opinion may differ.
     
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  9. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    the game turned on Chelsea injuries and a strange refereeing decision... never a second yellow and Xhaka milked it , like many payers do in fairness.... my late father used to say that the luckiest team won the cup, my team Tranmere Rovers were spanked by Utd in January at the start of their impressive run, Arsenal knocked them out and got lucky today so I'm claiming we'd have won it if luck was on our side! ;)
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2020
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  10. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    I’d sooner leave it down to ref himself to decide if he feels it necessary to have another look. Course, the ref who made the error yesterday was only a few feet away from the incident and had a great view. Not perfect of course, but it can’t be worse than how VAR has been implemented in England.

    I say the bit in bold because I heard recently Fifa took over control of VAR on 1st July and want a uniform protocol used by everyone mainly in order to end the PL’s variation.

    The PL truly is run by a bunch of ‘we know best’ incompetent, know-nowts.
     
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  11. webster

    webster Listen & enjoy.

    +1
     
  12. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    I’ve been watching football since 1968 and at every season during that time it’s been modern. :)

    Excessive rolling about, feigning contact ( to the face, for example ) and injury are a form of cheating and should be treated as such within the rules.
     
  13. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Other than the first sentence the rest of your original post below post reads very much like a comment on yesterday’s game. Yesterday, the player that was rolling around was an Arsenal player, and he didn’t bring anything on himself, his play acting bought a red card for the Chelsea player.

     
  14. Weekender

    Weekender pfm Member

    David Luiz on Instagtam showing his lack of class holding the Cup with a Thank You Chelsea message. Tool.
    Unfortunate injuries to say the least.
    Never a second yellow. If a match changing decision is blatantly incorrect use VAR.
     
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  15. omers

    omers pfm Member

    So if a player gets a 2nd yellow card, we should also check his first yellow card, perhaps it was a referee mistake?
    The VAR rules are clear, players better abstain from their first yellow. If anything I think VAR is used too much and not too little.
    Omer.
     
  16. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Yes. It’s almost as if the people responsible for implementing VAR want it to fail, and so are deliberately implementing it in a way that discredits it.

    It should, and could, be very simple and easy, but those fat me in suits at the FA who live in a world of patronage, want to make it complicated and clumsy
     
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  17. Tarzan

    Tarzan pfm Member

    #14times

    In all honesty, the injuries and sending off did for Chelsea, however not to take anything away from The Arsenal, they seem to know what each other are doing, and they are starting to defend, Frankie Lampard seems to be a very promising manager indeed and Chelsea will be there or thereabouts for aa good while.

    Arteta in!
     
  18. christray

    christray pfm Member

    Xhaka is a prime example of a cheating ****. Pedro at the end throwing himself about went well I thought.
     
  19. christray

    christray pfm Member

    I've said before VAR in principle is a good idea but, the laws are still open to interpretation by the official on the day.
     
  20. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    ‘Throwing himself about’? Pedro went off with a dislocated shoulder ffs.
     

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