paulfromcamden
Baffled
Sorry, my bad. I wasn't clear. I should have said a morally defensible reason.
General Election 2024
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TheFlash
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Ditto Johnson? Ditto Trump? You may be viewing the electorate of here and the US through a particularly rosy lens. Or be in denial about our brothers in arms. Or whatever.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
33% of YouGov respondents voted him most 'likeable'. I'm starting to think this polling business is a load of old knackers.
TheFlash
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It was a particularly ineffective channelling of Sunak's inner Churchill wasn't it. No surrender on taxes, no surrender on our borders, no surrender on <something else I forget>. I think the key takeaway for me is that we mustn't surrender things.
Tony L
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Agree. Modern fascism is a face/LARP for the privileged super-rich. I don’t understand how anyone else falls for it. It is totally outside my comprehension ability. I genuinely don’t get it.
TheFlash
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You need to go down the pub a bit more. You know, and tune in.
Tony L
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Except the ECHR, which Churchill was instrumental in creating.
TheFlash
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Look, we're not going to have a decent argument if you insist on bringing facts in.
Somafunk
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Is ordinary folk a euphemism for racists and fascists?
Starmer had a strong bit in the middle when talking about his previous jobs but otherwise was meek and slow, appearing wounded as he grimaced and shook his head at Sunaks endless torrent of shit.
Mishal Husain was very weak. I was surprised as she is excellent on R4 and was good in last week's debate but tonight she failed to challenge Sunak as he parroted the same nonsense to every question yet was quick to reprimand Starmer for straying even slightly when answering a question.
Rather like a teacher afraid to take on the hard to handle child but asserts themselves with the quiet kid who steps a little out of line.
Mishal Husain was very weak. I was surprised as she is excellent on R4 and was good in last week's debate but tonight she failed to challenge Sunak as he parroted the same nonsense to every question yet was quick to reprimand Starmer for straying even slightly when answering a question.
Rather like a teacher afraid to take on the hard to handle child but asserts themselves with the quiet kid who steps a little out of line.
It’s just thick racists who are a bit deferential.
Alex S
carbon based lifeform
Trustworthy: Sunak 39% / Starmer 50%
Likeable: Sunak 33% / Starmer 52%
In touch: Sunak 18% / Starmer 63%
Prime Ministerial: Sunak 41% / Starmer 42%
Looks about right.
TheFlash
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No. It's a euphemism for people who think nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
I get it. A few decades ago, your neighbour was called Brian or Colin or Marjorie or Sheila (other names are available, check local stockists for details) and they probably lived within a few miles of where their parents lived and their kids went to the same school as your kids. Today they might be called <insert names which aren't Brian, Colin, Marjorie or Sheila), may have moved to the town or country only recently, and crikey you don't even know which country they're supporting at the EUFAs never minds the World Cup. It's bewildering.
I know lots of people like this, mostly a generation older than me. They would never think of themselves as racists or fascists, they just think the(ir) world is changing too fast. Fromage taps into this.
Very true this, boomers quickly fall into racial stereotyping when talking about politics. It’s quite frightening really, couldn’t believe what my FiL said the other week (& my mother also). My dad has been know to spout AS tropes also.
FiL even voted Brexit as he thought it would better for his grandchildren. Pretty speechless all round.
MVV
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True, I am a bit grim. I try.. but struggle.
ff1d1l
pfm Member
Yet he'd **** you over without a second thought...