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Coronavirus - the new strain IX

Discussion in 'off topic' started by gavreid, Jun 23, 2020.

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  1. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

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  2. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Yes but it can't only be younger people - that's an enormous simplification. There could be more younger people in the distribution but there's been no apparent growth in hospitalisations, or indeed deaths, at all - none whatsoever...
     
  3. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    So the big dilemma then is whether, in the absence of the most recent real data, do you go with figures based on reliable methodologies or some rule of thumb approach with no proven value? If 4200 is not acceptable to you what figure should be used?
     
  4. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    I'm not arguing with 4000. ONS predicts between 2000 and 8000 with 95% confidence, I think. I said in post 1368 confirmed actual cases - you're make an entirely different argument around projected case numbers, which could quite honestly be anything. What I've been saying is no more people are going to hospital...
     
  5. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK I had amnesia once or twice...

    Hence why I deleted the post - you cited the ONS data, I only went off what someone said on the BBC news this morning. :)
     
  6. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    You have been arguing with the 4200 new cases a day figure because the hospital admissions don't reflect this, in your opinion. You said it was a week not a day's new cases. Do you now accept this was wrong, the best figure we have is the one I have given which is 95% accurate according to ONS. In their own words "The number of people newly infected with the virus has also increased, with latest data showing an estimated 4,200 new cases of COVID-19 per day in England". Hopes that clarifies the issue for you.
     
  7. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

    Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Let freedom, er, ring? o_O

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Well, I can dream, can’t I?

    If wearing a mask reduces the size and amount of aerosol virus, that may reduce the amount of viral load people receive. If, as has been suggested, severity of infection corresponds in some degree to viral load, then wearing a mask may not reduce infections, but may reduce hospitalisations, perhaps?
     
  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    let Freedom’s bell ring out-

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  10. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Well, I can dream, can’t I?

    Perhaps we could also have an hour for all those people who don’t want to keep to the speed limit, while we’re at it?
     
  11. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ it is not a bad idea. Can we include Brexiteers in that shopping hour ?
    Two birds with one stone ;)
     
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  12. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    ^ Hard remainers, too. Three birds... ;)
     
  13. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ only works with Venn overlap.
     
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  14. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

  15. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ what a shambles but that is BJ for you.
    In 4 years the UK has gone from respected, if not necessarily liked, to a joke. And now to be pitied.
     
  16. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

  17. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    What we are seeing is relentless self interest and pressure on government to place commercial interests above public safety, whether it be from The Mullet demanding his boozers stay open throughout the crisis or the aggressive halfwit Bannatyne with his humid indoor transmission sites. The fact that government departments, ministers and their newspaper mouthpieces were all amplifying the “everyone down the pubs” message is unthinking populist government at its worst.
     
  18. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    I’ve always loved Passport to Pimlico, but it’s probably just what my grandfather used to call « paper talk. »

    That being said, given a choice between lockdown and a border at the M25 with some over 50s shielding, the latter would be the right one I think, despite the worry that it could be the thin end of the wedge.
     
  19. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK I had amnesia once or twice...

    Or in 'The North' as people in London like to call it.
     
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  20. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Beyond the Watford Gap, where they smell of damp biscuits and speak in novelty accents.
     
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