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Coronavirus - the new strain IX

Discussion in 'off topic' started by gavreid, Jun 23, 2020.

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  1. Caledon1297

    Caledon1297 pfm Member

    It's a video on twitter, so a screenshot wouldn't be of much use; unfortunately, I've not yet fathomed out how to embed a video from Twitter on this site, but, as SteveS1 points out, you don't have to have a Twitter account to view (I haven't).

    Oh, what the hell...

  2. flapland

    flapland pfm Member

    They have had their one good moment when the elected Martin Bell to get rid of Neil Hamilton.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr and tqineil like this.
  3. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    I think this idea probably makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the UK in some form or other.
  4. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    NZ did the same. Obvious really.
  5. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    4000+ new infections a day is alarmingly high. Sorry, but the opening of pubs and gyms plus heavier fines for those not maintaining acceptable distancing in parks. beaches etc will have to be looked at again when schools re-open. Trade-offs will be required it seems to me. Vietnam had no infections for 90 days and now the bloody thing has caused record new infections.
  6. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ What/where is the 4000+ new infections a day ?
    Vietnam had only 12 new cases today for a total of 182 Active Cases. Figures the UK can only dream of. And in a population of 97m.
  7. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

  8. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    It's 4000 confirmed cases per week currently, not per day.
  9. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    "Figures published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) on Friday suggest infection rates in England are rising, with around 4,200 new infections a day - compared with 3,200 a week ago." BBC today.

    And 10 minutes ago produced this heading "Coronavirus: Pubs 'may need to shut' to allow schools to reopen" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53621613
  10. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    The PHE report says:

    "The were small increases in COVID-19 activity noted in England across a number of surveillance indicators during week 30. Case detections in England increased from 4,062 in week 29 to 4,130 in week 30. At a local authority level, activity was highest in Blackburn and Darwen where incidence has continued to increase. Activity in Leicester continued to decrease. Case detections were highest in adults aged 85 and over. "
  11. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B pfm Member

    I just followed the link through to a page on “what to do if you have symptoms”. Am I misunderstanding that if you have minor symptoms you self isolate but don’t alert anyone? The advice seems to be don’t phone the NHS or your GP?

    In Ireland the advice is to phone your GP to organise a test. I presume I’m misreading this UK advice as there will be no tracing (or accurate figures of cases)?

  12. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    I guess this is the difference between the estimates produced by the ONS and the statistics for cases confirmed by lab test from PHE.

    As we still don't understand the level of asymptomatic community infection I think it's hard to get a grip on infection levels other than to note upwards or downwards trends.
    jackbarron likes this.
  13. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    just make anyone with children quarantine and ban them from pubs, alongside teachers, helpers dinner ladies etc...
    tonerei likes this.
  14. Caledon1297

    Caledon1297 pfm Member

    The advice in Scotland is as follows:

    If you have coronavirus symptoms

    If you’ve developed symptoms (however mild), stay at home for 10 days from the start of your symptoms and arrange to be tested. Do not go to your GP, pharmacy or hospital.
    You should remain at home until you get the result of the test, and then follow the advice you will be given based on the result.
  15. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    There hasn't beeen a spike in hospital admissions as of yet which still points towards a lowish number of cases.
  16. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    4000 a day is more likely to be the true figure.
  17. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    maybe so. Look at the trend in hospital admission I'd suggest

    "Emergency department attendances with a COVID-19-like diagnosis and hospitalisations and critical care admissions for confirmed COVID-19 remained stable.COVID-19 deaths continue to decline and, while delays to death registrations can impact on the most recent data, there has been no detectable excess mortality since week 24 in any age group or region."

    Let's see next week, these must start to increase I'd have thought.
  18. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    There is no unassailable connection between hospital admissions and the number of infections and so why should the admissions figure be more accurate than the work of the ONS?
  19. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B pfm Member

    Yes it appears to be different for England

    From BBC

    What should I do if I have mild symptoms?
    Patients with mild symptoms should self-isolate at home for at least 10 days.

    People are advised not to ring NHS 111 to report their symptoms unless they are worried. They should also not go to their GP, or A&E.

    Details for Scotland are to check NHS inform, then ring your GP in office hours, or 111 out-of-hours. In Wales call NHS 111, and in Northern Ireland, call your GP.

    Caledon1297 likes this.
  20. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Sorry but I'm not having that, hospital admissions will increase with increasing case numbers . It's the trends that are important rather than the absolute numbers or the particular model, as long as we're comparing like with like.
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