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Brexit: give me a positive effect... IIII

Discussion in 'off topic' started by russel, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. russel

    russel ./_dazed_and_confused

    How would that help?.
  2. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    You could be right Brian, maybe the Ashford residents voted for a 27 acre lorry park on their doorstep processing checks they were told by Brexiteers wouldn't be necessary. Maybe Nissan workers thought redundancy might be a price worth paying to get a grip in immigration so they could get one of the lesser jobs that the imigrants were doing. Maybe Brexiteers thought that a smaller economy wouldn't affect them. Maybe they believed that everything that was good would just carry on as normal and only the things they didn't want would stop. Because those nice speculators and vulture capitalists told them it was so.

    We are left with possibilities - the rosy vision where it all went off with no tariffs, ease of trade and travel retained, the economy was unaffected and nasty things like paying contributions and EU immigration removed - because our Gov wouldn't lie. Or another option where they didn't mind the sacrifice as long as they won something for a change. Or the really unpalatable possibility, that ignorance of how this all works played more than a little part.
  3. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

  4. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    The deluded and the wishful thinkers?
  5. Barrymagrec

    Barrymagrec pfm Member

    So, about 17.19m?
  6. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Are you NDA'd or can you tell us where you get your inside information from?

    Which other parts of the world?

    "In 2016 more than £30.3bn of Britain's food imports and £12.3bn of its food exports were with the EU, totalling almost £1,300 of trade every second" (The Guardian)

    "Based on the farm-gate value of unprocessed food in 2018, the UK supplied just over half (53%) of the food consumed in the UK. The leading foreign supplier of food consumed in the UK were countries from the EU (28%). Africa, Asia, North and South America each provided a 4% share of the food consumed in the UK." (Gov.UK)

    The deluded and the wishful thinkers?

    Which automated container terminals?
  7. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

  8. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

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  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    The poor African farmer is standing by to supply us with all our needs in the event of the imaginary prison camp guards ‘blockading the ports’ or starting an imaginary trade war.
    Ex-Nissan skilled workers can of course relocate to Kent to take up some of the 50,000 new form filling jobs. How many are needed on each shift to get through 10,000 lorries a day through Dover?

  10. russel

    russel ./_dazed_and_confused

    They will still need inspection and all the administration involved and you cannot just wave it through as that would fall foul of WTO rules.
  11. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    It would also fall foul of "taking back control of our borders".

    Maybe Bojo could ask Mexico to pay for an automated container terminals?
  12. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Besides, there could be brown people hiding in there.
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  13. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

    No insider information is required to see that there will be a not BINO feal; we don't have long to wait to find out who is correct.
    I did a list recently of goods we could buy elsewhere to balance our trade with the EU.

    The French refuse to reform and have a tight grip on their governments that come and go, each trying to get a grip of a changing world. What they cannot control is industry leaving the country and whether other countries wish to buy their goods or use their services. If the Calais/Dover route becomes a bottleneck they will lose business and so will we, but business will find an alternative.
  14. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Buying from distant countries will massively increase the carbon footprint of such products.
    Plus the EU has stricter environmental, animal protection and quality standards.
    Why do you wish to buy from elsewhere, do these things not matter to you?

    So now the enemy is France, not Germany?
  15. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Whiffs of the auto industry coming to the rescue...
  16. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

  17. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

    No France and Germany are our friends and trading partners.
  18. Nero

    Nero Newish Member

    Coffee meets keyboard. That's genuinely funny
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  19. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

    I suppose the cars for cows deal with South America and the cheese for cars deal with Japan are setting us an example that green is good except where it gets in the way of business. For the EU the green issue is a future cash cow to raise federal revenue.
  20. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member


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