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New Naim Powerline Lite

Discussion in 'audio' started by Bas V, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. pjdowns

    pjdowns pfm Member

    I am confused, surely I would have listened with my ears to have reported this answer, wouldn't I?... sorry maybe I am being thick here.
  2. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    My question was about listening with just your ears - that is, attempting to exclude other than auditory factors (such as by using double blind test protocols).
  3. Central Audio

    Central Audio Trade Central Audio

    Correct but in my case I said I will have none.
  4. pjdowns

    pjdowns pfm Member

    Oh I see, I listened with my ears only, well my Dad was there too, so I guess his ears also.

    I recently compared my aftermarket cable against a Naim Powerline and mine was quite a margin better, which in turn were miles better than the stock Naim cable. At over £200 less than the Naim Powerline, I'm quite happy with my choice.
  5. Suffolk Tony

    Suffolk Tony pfm Member

    They amputated my left leg when I asked if Naim were bringing out an updated DAC.
  6. pjdowns

    pjdowns pfm Member

  7. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    What was your method for excluding your possible expectation bias?

    What arrangements did you use to allow instantaneous switching - or were you relying on auditory memory?
  8. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    I can't speak for others but I counter expectation bias by expecting the exact opposite of what I expect. That way if I hear a difference — whether an improvement or degradation — I know the difference is real because I didn't expect it.

    Then, as a double check, I expect the opposite again (so back to where I started) to see if the difference I heard (or not) goes away (or comes back).

    I do this several times — flipping my expectations back and forth — keeping score on a tally sheet using a checkmark (√) if I expected to not hear a difference but in fact heard one or expected to hear a difference but in fact didn't hear one. The important thing is to keep flipping expectations back and forth until your mind is so confused that it's only capable of hearing real audible differences — or perhaps failing to hear real audible differences. Where the insanity leads is not as important as becoming insane. You want to be crazy. Batshit crazy if possible.

    Then, after a while, I watch Star Trek, because I love that show. Or I make funny memes using a picture of my cat.


  9. thebiglebowski

    thebiglebowski pfm Member

    I could well believe that.

    Naim would never remove a customers arm and impede their ability to take their wallet out and pay for all that lovely foo.
  10. thebiglebowski

    thebiglebowski pfm Member

    And then the spanish inquisition turns up and corrupts all your hard work as you really weren't expecting that.
  11. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod


    I did not expect that.

  12. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    I didn't expect that!
  13. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    My cat iz smart.

  14. joe9407

    joe9407 actress/activist

    donde esta la horta?
  15. Suffolk Tony

    Suffolk Tony pfm Member

    I forgot to mention they nailed my right hand to the gatepost. Luckily I'm left-handed so all was well.
  16. pjdowns

    pjdowns pfm Member

    I assume you are just trying to take the pee, but I'll humour you.

    My expectation was that due to the hearty £200 price difference, the Naim would sound better, but I was wrong.

    Relying on auditory memory.
  17. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    Thank you for the clarification.
  18. Bodger

    Bodger Member

    Bit of a storm in a tea cup. 95 quid is nowt given our chosen hobby. Hi-Fi is an expansive game. More so for decent kit. Get over it. If you can try before you buy then great. For the price it's hardly worth going down the shops for. What other upgrade costs less than a ton?
  19. HiFiman

    HiFiman Don't tell him Pike

    Depends if it's an upgrade over the standard supplied lead, I would prefer to spend the £95 on a night out down at the pub :D
  20. Bodger

    Bodger Member

    You must be a heavy tipper or a serious drinker. Either way, I have to agree.

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