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New Naim Powerline Lite

Discussion in 'audio' started by Bas V, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. amazement

    amazement pfm Member

    Spike it's Entirly feasible what you say, Naim site and its moderators often remove and ban posters on their site. I find the naim forum very Stasi like at times, after all naim has become a form of religion.
  2. wylton

    wylton pfm Member

    Indeed; even I managed to get banned at one point & I'm a Naim user!
  3. Spike

    Spike pfm Member

    This was almost 10 years ago when it was introduced. At the time I was running a four box naim system and using an Aro. Indeed I still have a wonderful Naim NAIT. I recall suggesting that I should remove the captive lead fix an IEC socket and this would sound better!!
    I have no problem with Naim or any manufacturer selling these. I just object to the "science". YPYMYTYC.
  4. Kraus

    Kraus Member

    You may - and I will. With a full apology.

    I'm afraid I was overconfident that I would have remembered any such scuffle and rather took my lack of recall for absence from reality.

    What was you name over there - and who banned you? Seems draconian if this was the full substance of the incident.
  5. abbydog

    abbydog pfm Member

    Here we go...
  6. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    The naim forum is not a democracy, they can ban who they want. On pfm I'm pretty sure discussing disputes with other sites is against AUP.
  7. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger


    An utter aside in a discusion I'm not part of - but chapeau for such courtesy on an audio forum!
  8. Bas V

    Bas V pfm Member

    Yup. A very expensive plug. But it makes a massive difference! :D
  9. Clay B

    Clay B pfm Member

    I did look closer and all I could clearly make out was the term Kema Keur. Interestingly, it's a quality protocol/certification process for electrical products which is apparently recognized world-wide.

    Wonder what that requires and what it means?
  10. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    KEMA is a Dutch organisation (originally set up by a bunch of power utilities, but now owned by Det Norske Veritas in Norway) that does electrical safety testing / certification. KEMA certification is often a procurement requirement for electrical equipment. One of my companies went through the certification process for their power monitoring and measurement devices - one of our engineers spent 3 days at KEMA in Arnhem.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with audio, it is purely an electrical safety certification.

    "Keur" is Dutch for choice or acceptance.

    Edit: forgot the "so what" - KEMA certification is voluntary, and is usually only done for volume products. No way someone like Naim would go through that process for a power lead or plug. Thus the power plug is probably a standard consumer appliance plug.
  11. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    This. It's pretty easy to use forums like this which are not moderated to a manufacturer's commercial interest. Group think is less likely and experience is broader. Just don't exepect as much slavish agreement. :D
  12. rich46

    rich46 pfm Member

    all expensive mains cable are a joke,yes I did try. screening is good, reasonable csa . and well put together with a good fit plug . tops £50 sorted
  13. pjdowns

    pjdowns pfm Member

    Before calling them a joke, have you tried any of them? This one doesn't count because it's a standard cable with a fancy plug and badge, but some of the aftermarket cables make a lot of difference. For me my recent power cable purchase was as big an improvement as buying a new box.
  14. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    Have you tried listening to then with just your ears?
  15. Central Audio

    Central Audio Trade Central Audio

    I have been of the opinion that when you are being ripped off the person doing the ripping off has to tell you they are doing so.
    Its done usually in a subliminal way, and the person doing it is probably not aware, some kind of Freudian off loading of guilt trip.
    I felt the £666 price for a single box for a NAP 500 amp fell squarely in to this category.
  16. Jonn

    Jonn pfm Member

    Even more of a rip off if the box was empty :D
  17. pjdowns

    pjdowns pfm Member

    Listening to what?

    I have heard the standard, free naim cables which aren't much cop, yes.
  18. Suffolk Tony

    Suffolk Tony pfm Member

    "I'm gonna sell you this item but, before you buy it, I must warn you it's a rip-off". "Splendid! In that case, I'll have two!"
  19. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    I was referring to this:

  20. thebiglebowski

    thebiglebowski pfm Member

    I got a 7 day ban for offering to lend someone a cheap CA640p phono stage as they couldn't afford to buy one as well as a TT.

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