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The TRUTH Why Modern Music Is Awful

Discussion in 'music' started by DonQuixote99, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    The most effective method of avoiding mockery is to abstain from posting the ridiculous.

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  2. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    Not being specific can sink an argument very quickly, as can making generalistic comments.
    Still likes this.
  3. kjb

    kjb pfm Member

    I think this challenges the generalisation. Modern and utterly fabulous indie pop, and, look, all played on live instruments.

    I'm not sure I've heard such an uplifting song about feeling sad since "The Charming Man".

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  4. darrenyeats

    darrenyeats pfm Member

    I like a lot of modern music, but I wouldn't use that as an advert for it!

    Peace and good will to all, ha-ha! Signed, Grinch
  5. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    Do not recall contradicting what I just said at an earlier time. Will agree it's an age thing if you can quote such.
  6. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    No generalization is completely true, and you all keep ignoring the nuance and caveats included in the earlier discussion. ALL* modern POP is crap, that's the assertion. Modern indie stuff can often be very different, and have never failed to recognize that.

  7. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    You keep reacting as if I wasn't 'leaving you to it.' Stay as 'to it' as you may fondly wish!

    You are the one who's insisting there is something wrong with me and my opinion.
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  8. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    You quote another's title, and a little hype in the title is acknowledged. Any inaccuracies of fact in the video?
  9. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    I do not much bother going back over past posts, mine or others so quotes are not my strong point. Here and now for me generally, I prefer moving on, rightly or wrongly.

    To find music that one appreciates has always been difficult, more so now because of our past preferences/intolerances maybe!

  10. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    FWIW I’m currently watching an old 1962 film ‘Ring A Ding Ding Rhythm’ (also known as ‘It’s Trad Dad’) on Vintage TV. It is an all-star cast featuring Gene Vincent, Chubby Checker and countless other early rock ‘n’ roll and pop acts along with several of the white UK trad-jazz revivalists (Acker Bilk etc). To my ears it is at least 90% vacuous junk and makes the point I’ve made all along in this thread that pop music always has been lightweight garbage on the whole. To think that Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, John Lee Hooker, Howling Wolf etc etc were each changing the world at this time helps demonstrate that total disconnect for me. This was quite a radical film in its day too, much of the charts, radio etc was way, way worse!

    Sure, every now and again something genuinely great gets in the pop charts, but on the whole it is saccharine vacuous manufactured by the yard junk that no one with any real interest in music should ever take seriously.
  11. Ragaman

    Ragaman Mentalist

    Plenty of quality mainstream stuff in the 80's, lot's of diversity, the pop stuff now follows a well trodden path, much less diversity in chart music these days.

    I personally couldn't compare Howlin' wolf with any artist, the man was a one off giant of his genre but so was David Bowie, I wouldn't call his output junk, it's a bit extreme, he had plenty of chart hits, so have many others in his class, Ian Dury (another favourite of mine), there are just too many to mention, completely disagree with your analogy.
  12. darrenyeats

    darrenyeats pfm Member

    Also a lot of chart stuff today is good. A lot is dross too.

    I suppose the question is what was meant by the thread title. What is actually written however, is too dogmatic IMO.
  13. Minio

    Minio pfm Member

    I don't see why it matters if there is a lot of dross in the charts these days.

    There seem to be so many charts it's hard to know what is being referred to. Nor am I interested in slavishly adhering to any one in particular.

    Gone are the days when listening to Pick of the Pops every Sunday was my musical inspiration.

    Like many on PFM, I assume, my musical choices are affected by favourite radio stations, favourite magazines, mates and Internet forums.

    Like what I'm on!
  14. RJohan

    RJohan pfm Member

    Watching the 'The Truth...' video I got a new argument for hating ABBA! If they hadn't been big no one would have bothered about Swedish pop and we would have been spared Max Martin.
  15. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    HAte ABBA? Are you real?
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  16. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    istm all the new fangled technology that they have these days means there's vastly more diversity.
    It may not be in the charts, but it's readily accessible.
  17. Ragaman

    Ragaman Mentalist

    Outside of the charts yes, lots of diversity, the charts seems to be full of plinky plonky soulless dross. There have bee the odd standout this year but quite poor overall.
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  18. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    I agree, but looking back at 80s TOTP for e.g. istm the charts have always a bit that way.
  19. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    A somewhat flat-sounding voice.
    Does nothing for me...
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  20. narabdela

    narabdela who?

    Me neither, and you're being rather kind with the 'somewhat'. It's way off-key and quite unpleasant to listen to.

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