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The 2018 F1 Thread

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Tony Lockhart, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. IanW

    IanW pfm Member

    There is the possibility of a few standard parts to reduce costs, but hopefully F1 won't approach IndyCar levels of standardisation. If they do I won't be working in the industry, nor will I be watching it.

    I came across this article today that state that F1 race attendance figures are up this year:

  2. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    That article only compares this year with 2016. I bet it's a lot more complicated than it says. Circuits like Silverstone and Monza must be at capacity most years?
  3. IanW

    IanW pfm Member

    It certainly is a lot more complicated with attendance figures only a small part of the overall equation.
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  4. tones

    tones Tones deaf

    Interesting article on the McLaren-Honda failure in Autosport. It's a subscription article, but here's a taste:

    The humble oil tank seems such an innocuous component amid the extraordinary complexity of V6 Formula 1 engines and their hybrid parts. With all the millions of dollars invested in trying to make a success of a works grand prix operation, combined with the expertise of two mighty racing organisations, you wouldn't expect something so basic to be the root cause of calamity.

    But that's exactly what happened in 2017. The unfeted oil tank is the chief reason why the McLaren-Honda alliance is no more, dissolved in a poisonous concoction of broken promises and shattered dreams.

    Apparently the change in shape in the oil tank - brought about by the repositioning of the turbo outside the vee of the motor à la Mercedes - caused all sorts of diabolical problems.
  5. Paja

    Paja aka Infidel

  6. RJohan

    RJohan pfm Member

    I watch 1990's IndyCar/Cart on youtube. Exciting and varied from high speed ovals to street courses. The cars even looks like F1 cars should!
    You Brits can start with Mansell in '93 (the unoficial 'who is the best ex F1 WC' championship) and then there is Zanardi in '97-'98...
  7. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    The FIA have told teams that they are now required to prove to the FIA that the steering on their cars doesn't improve aero by substantially lowering the front of the car by more than 5mm.

    What a pain that must be, especially with the 2018 cars so far down the development trail.
  8. markvdv

    markvdv pfm Member

    29-12-2013, 4 years, incredibly long ago
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  9. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    Wasn't pleasant news on my 50th birthday.
  10. cutting42

    cutting42 Heading to Fish Hacker Erg \o/

    RIP Dan Gurney

    Dan Gurney, the first to spray champagne on the podium, the only driver feared by Jim Clarke and the only one with an aerodynamic device named after him has sadly died.
  11. merlin

    merlin Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.

    I imagine that were F1 to offer the Beeb exclusive coverage for a sensible annual figure they would be happy to cover the races.
  12. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    A real gentleman, won on F1, NASCAR, Indy 500, Le Mans, and possessed Hollywood looks. His life must've been pleasant at times.

    RIP, you legend.
  13. tones

    tones Tones deaf

    That is sad. He was a driver back in the era when I started watching racing. I remember well the Spa win in the gorgeous Eagle and the Le Mans win with A J Foyt, when the car, which was supposed to be the pace car to break the Ferraris, suddenly had to do the winning when half the Ford team was eliminated in a wee small hours accident. The car demolished every record there was. It even won the Index of Thermal Efficiency (said to be invented so that a French car could win something!).
  14. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    Someone I follow on a certain social media posted this just now. Yep, that's the driver's view from an F1 car with halo fitted. Yuck.

  15. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    Put windscreeens in, enclose the wheels (which will be the next safety features) and it is a sports car.....then remove the driver from the car and have them driven remotely by 10 year olds.....
  16. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    I don't see this change lasting the season. I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone by Spain.
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  17. tones

    tones Tones deaf

    My goodness, I didn't think it would be quite that bad! I would have thought that something like another roll bar mounted slightly ahead of the driver would afford both protection and sufficiently easy exit/extraction in the event of an accident, but I guess that has been considered and there are objections.
  18. Richard Nichola

    Richard Nichola pfm Member

    Reminds me of the opti-grab in the Steve Martin film, "The Jerk". Expecting to see cross eyed drivers at the end of the season...
  19. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    "And the lights go out and..... NOBODY'S MOVING!"
  20. peter bj

    peter bj pfm Member

    vision looks terrible surely this could lead to more accidents rather than improving things

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