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The 2018 F1 Thread

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Tony Lockhart, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. tones

    tones Tones deaf

    My "more refined" was something along those lines, utilising the advantages of more modern technology. Perhaps the manual 6-speeder is a wee bit retrograde, considering all the paddle shifts in road cars.
     
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  2. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    I don't see that there needs to be a connection between F1 and road cars, and I know that in the FIA there are those that think the same. My reasoning is that as two well matched drivers hurtle along the main straight at Monza, side by side, chicane rapidly approaching, instead of both drivers just braking at the 100 metre point and flapping the left paddle at the right time, they'd HAVE to move that antiquated stick at the right time and in the right way, The chance of making a tiny mistake would always be there, and that would give the position to the other dude. And perhaps Vettel would suddenly have another use for his special blister-preventing tug-gloves ;)
     
  3. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I guess the connection is really it is in most cases a promotional/marketing tool for road cars. It is most unusual for someone like Red Bull to come along who aren’t trying to sell motor industry technology. Whether than means there has to be a connection in technology I’ve no idea. I’d like to see a lot less (non-safety-related) rules to be honest and just see who can go round the track the fastest.
     
  4. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    Why have mandatory tyres stops at all?
     
  5. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    Red Bull are everywhere to sell Red Bull, they have zero interest in any sport except to promote the Red Bull brand.
     
  6. merlin

    merlin Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.

    If it's only on Sky I couldn't give a shit if they are driving FF cars with jet engines. I won't be watching. They lost me when they sold out to satellite.
     
  7. Whaleblue

    Whaleblue Southbound

    So why choose F1 to sponsor? They might alternatively sponsor the World Knitting Championships. OK, yes, I know, grannies on Red Bull is a worrying thought.

    However, my guess is that someone at the top of Red Bull is very interested in F1, and sees the advertising opportunity that mixes business with pleasure.
     
  8. merlin

    merlin Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.

    If they dump the aero though and Red Bull win again, the market campaign (Red Bull gives you wings) is just so right...

    The original Red Bull is far better BTW
     
  9. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I wonder if F1 disappearing behind the Hypnotoad’s paywall in 2019 will kill some UK-centric sponsors and even teams?
     
  10. TPA

    TPA Trade: Tiger Paw

    Sadly I think most of them would be be happy to lose 90% of the UK market to get 20% of the US market.
     
  11. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    Red Bull do not fund the team exclusively, they have at least 20 other sponsors. Spending money on televised events is very cost effective in terms of putting your brand before tens of millions of potential consumers on a weekly basis. If F1 did not pay, they would not do it.
     
  12. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Exactly that.
    Until they were banned the tobacco companies all piled in.
     
  13. Whaleblue

    Whaleblue Southbound

    Well, obviously. I was merely refuting your statement that ‘they’ have zero interest in any sport, which is highly unlikely.
     
  14. Bananahead

    Bananahead pfm Member

    It was not an F1 decision. If the BBC or C4 want to broadcast it they can but they choose not to. And the coverage on Sky is fantastic. They cover all of the practices and press briefings as well as by far the best race coverage.
     
  15. Wick

    Wick pfm Member

    More likely
    1) they couldn't afford it and
    2) the audience was deemed too small for the beeb to justify the expense.
     
  16. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Love the new Alfa livery on the Sauber.
     
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  17. IanW

    IanW pfm Member

    So do I.
     
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  18. tones

    tones Tones deaf

  19. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

    Except that if you look at the likes of Senna and Schumacher the thing that separated them from the others was their braking (and to a lesser extent throttle) not their gear shifts.
     
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  20. IanW

    IanW pfm Member

    What separated Senna from the rest was his ability to use the tyres to corner whilst braking and accelerate out of a turn whilst still cornering. There was a lot of additional tyre potential out there, but it was very difficult to drive in those combined conditions. Nowadays with seamless shifts and much better vehicle handling, this is easier to do.
     
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