Sports car chat
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The story of the entire British car/bike industry...short-term thinking by management, workers and government.
I'm sure Japanese executives couldn't believe it.
gintonic
50 shades of grey pussy cats
oh they do for repairs and rebuilds. But since my car was only a few weeks old, they decided to replace the whole thing
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
“If they’re selling, we don’t need to improve them. If they’re not selling, we can’t afford to improve them.”
I think that was the attitude.
I think that was the attitude.
Complacency.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Classic cars racing today just can’t be properly compared to the originals. So much has been learned with regards to engine performance, transmissions, springs and dampers, brake discs and pads, tyres, suspension bushes, that the cars are much faster around a lap than they were in the 60s. Just look at the ‘new’ BRM V16… doesn’t even misfire, and it uses the same type of ignition system!
The sad story of the British motor industry; great at design, poor at building.
Amazing that we, in effect, gave away legacy products like the mini & MGB.
I would imagine a reworking of the Morris Minor, especially the traveler, would find an audience.
Same thing has happened with bike industry.
Amazing that we, in effect, gave away legacy products like the mini & MGB.
I would imagine a reworking of the Morris Minor, especially the traveler, would find an audience.
Same thing has happened with bike industry.
AnilS
pfm Member
Thanks again @martin clark . Seems to have been a loose plug. Lets see.
So another shakedown as the weather was nice yesterday.
So Z4, in sport mode was epic. Sound resonator foam removed (there are 3 bungs and 2 removed) so real engine sound, pipes through into the glovebox. Amazing, Car had half a tank of premium fuel but on the "B" roads, felt edgy. Maybe since my illness, I've lost a bit of confidence.
Then into the GR Yaris. Off the line, it feels no quicker than the Z4. However, the way it changes direction is makes my old Nissan GTR feel flabby (well it was heavy). Set into "track mode" with rev matching on the engine, and its a little beast. One thing I still find, even when warmed up, is the gearbox still feels notchy (2k miles on the clock may explain the issue). My Ford Puma still has the best manual gearchange I have ever experienced. End of. It also "feels" quite wide to thread down the road but nowhere near as wide as the GTR.
Then I tried our son's new car. Porsche Cayman 718 S (350bhp/PDK). OMG!!! Searing pace once warmed up and easily GTR fast on normal roads BUT the biggest thing about the car, is its handling balance. It's simply stunning and because of its size, much nicer to thread down a "B" road. Never twitchy. Always composed. The flat 4 2.5 litre (turbo) engine sounds very "throbby". Lovely package and probably the best pound for pound sports car, I have ever driven.
However, this has thrown up an issue, with me that I was hoping not to happen. Since my haemmorage, I'm finding driving, albeit on the slighty hardcore side, fatiguing and after a day, experiencing headpain. Maybe I overdid it, but hey ho.
All in all interesting. I'll stick to my Arteon (obviously no sports car but still 280ps and 4WD) as a daily driver, but the Cayman is just dumbfoundingly awesome.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Must’ve been fun!Thanks again @martin clark . Seems to have been a loose plug. Lets see.
So another shakedown as the weather was nice yesterday.
So Z4, in sport mode was epic. Sound resonator foam removed (there are 3 bungs and 2 removed) so real engine sound, pipes through into the glovebox. Amazing, Car had half a tank of premium fuel but on the "B" roads, felt edgy. Maybe since my illness, I've lost a bit of confidence.
Then into the GR Yaris. Off the line, it feels no quicker than the Z4. However, the way it changes direction is makes my old Nissan GTR feel flabby (well it was heavy). Set into "track mode" with rev matching on the engine, and its a little beast. One thing I still find, even when warmed up, is the gearbox still feels notchy (2k miles on the clock may explain the issue). My Ford Puma still has the best manual gearchange I have ever experienced. End of. It also "feels" quite wide to thread down the road but nowhere near as wide as the GTR.
Then I tried our son's new car. Porsche Cayman 718 S (350bhp/PDK). OMG!!! Searing pace once warmed up and easily GTR fast on normal roads BUT the biggest thing about the car, is its handling balance. It's simply stunning and because of its size, much nicer to thread down a "B" road. Never twitchy. Always composed. The flat 4 2.5 litre (turbo) engine sounds very "throbby". Lovely package and probably the best pound for pound sports car, I have ever driven.
However, this has thrown up an issue, with me that I was hoping not to happen. Since my haemmorage, I'm finding driving, albeit on the slighty hardcore side, fatiguing and after a day, experiencing headpain. Maybe I overdid it, but hey ho.
All in all interesting. I'll stick to my Arteon (obviously no sports car but still 280ps and 4WD) as a daily driver, but the Cayman is just dumbfoundingly awesome.
I find I need a bottle of water in a car as the a.c is always on, dehydrating me.
AnilS
pfm Member
Thanks Tony. You're right. I didn't carry one. Next time I will. Appreciate the reminder.
I've also become more "photo sensitive" and I forgot my better sunglasses (switching from car to car) and hence over straining. Sunlight caused me a lot of issues before my illness and a lot worse now.
Brown Bottle
UTB
It might not be the same as it was Anil but it’s good to hear you’re back behind the wheel.Thanks again @martin clark . Seems to have been a loose plug. Lets see.
So another shakedown as the weather was nice yesterday.
So Z4, in sport mode was epic. Sound resonator foam removed (there are 3 bungs and 2 removed) so real engine sound, pipes through into the glovebox. Amazing, Car had half a tank of premium fuel but on the "B" roads, felt edgy. Maybe since my illness, I've lost a bit of confidence.
Then into the GR Yaris. Off the line, it feels no quicker than the Z4. However, the way it changes direction is makes my old Nissan GTR feel flabby (well it was heavy). Set into "track mode" with rev matching on the engine, and its a little beast. One thing I still find, even when warmed up, is the gearbox still feels notchy (2k miles on the clock may explain the issue). My Ford Puma still has the best manual gearchange I have ever experienced. End of. It also "feels" quite wide to thread down the road but nowhere near as wide as the GTR.
Then I tried our son's new car. Porsche Cayman 718 S (350bhp/PDK). OMG!!! Searing pace once warmed up and easily GTR fast on normal roads BUT the biggest thing about the car, is its handling balance. It's simply stunning and because of its size, much nicer to thread down a "B" road. Never twitchy. Always composed. The flat 4 2.5 litre (turbo) engine sounds very "throbby". Lovely package and probably the best pound for pound sports car, I have ever driven.
However, this has thrown up an issue, with me that I was hoping not to happen. Since my haemmorage, I'm finding driving, albeit on the slighty hardcore side, fatiguing and after a day, experiencing headpain. Maybe I overdid it, but hey ho.
All in all interesting. I'll stick to my Arteon (obviously no sports car but still 280ps and 4WD) as a daily driver, but the Cayman is just dumbfoundingly awesome.
Cheers BB
Not forgetting back in the 1960s/70s these industries were crippled by the unions.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
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-alan-
pfm Member
I must say, those Z4 coupés are indeed rather stylish. There is a black one lives near me, which makes me do a double-take every time I see it.Thanks again @martin clark . Seems to have been a loose plug. Lets see.
So another shakedown as the weather was nice yesterday.
So Z4, in sport mode was epic. Sound resonator foam removed (there are 3 bungs and 2 removed) so real engine sound, pipes through into the glovebox. Amazing, Car had half a tank of premium fuel but on the "B" roads, felt edgy. Maybe since my illness, I've lost a bit of confidence.
Then I tried our son's new car. Porsche Cayman 718 S (350bhp/PDK). OMG!!! Searing pace once warmed up and easily GTR fast on normal roads BUT the biggest thing about the car, is its handling balance. It's simply stunning and because of its size, much nicer to thread down a "B" road. Never twitchy. Always composed. The flat 4 2.5 litre (turbo) engine sounds very "throbby". Lovely package and probably the best pound for pound sports car, I have ever driven.
Interesting to hear your comments on the Cayman too. I had a drive in a friend's GT4 a few years back - only on the roads, so very civilised/ well behaved - but really liked it. Sounds like the S version is a bit special as well.
Yes, that is a more accurate portrayal. Of course the Tories under Thatcher didn’t help as she didn’t like manufacturing.
No excuse for six weeks, if i order JD parts from Germany before 16-00 they will be at the dealer by 08-00 the next morning. I hear that DHL plane approaching Stansted about 03-00 many mornings. USA three days. They should maintain one or two on a shelf somewhere.
They should retain an exchange box or two, Porsche buyers can stand courier costs. Then it's overnight for the recon box, a couple of hours fitting and the old one goes back for rebuilding. The owner doesn't wait for parts, the repair is simple and guaranteed, the owner pays a non rebuildable deposit on the old one in case of damaged cases etc. But 90% of the time it's just internal bits, generic bearings etc, the actual gears are fine, £100 of parts, minor machining, gasket set, oil, job done.
Coming down the track in the next 10 years a large number of ICE cars are going out of production as the switch to electric continues. This realisation will concentrate sales to the largest volume manufacturers as more and more people become wary of buying cars that will soon have spares shortages. Will make a 6 week delay seem like the good old days.
Will Mazda survive ? Mitsubishi ? Subaru ? Suzuki ? Aston ?
edit after a quick peak at the PFM Environment thread maybe this really doesn't matter...
Will Mazda survive ? Mitsubishi ? Subaru ? Suzuki ? Aston ?
edit after a quick peak at the PFM Environment thread maybe this really doesn't matter...