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Hard brexit kamikaze in the Labour Party. Protecting jobs, workers rights and the economy. Not. Utterly f***ing sickening.According to the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921
Hard brexit kamikaze in the Labour Party. Protecting jobs, workers rights and the economy. Not. Utterly f***ing sickening.According to the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921
17 labour abstentions too...on the nod from Magic Grandpa?I imagine that would be. In the mean time there's no point sacking people who you need to win around, and may well still be able to: apparently 5 of the 8 hadn't rebelled on Brexit before, so they're not die hards. WTF they're actually thinking then I don't know. But underlying it, according to Stephen Bush anyway, is the assumption that this isn't the last chance they'll get to stop no deal (Bush isn't so sure).
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/06/britain-heads-no-deal-mps-gamble-brexit
We lost the motion today that would have created the circumstances to stop no deal by 11votes. All 35 SNP MPs voted for the motion but only 222 Labour MPs supported the motion. 8 voted against, 17 abstained. Unforgivable. Little wonder Labour are an irrelevance in Scotland.
As a comment further down re 11% did not support their own parties motion:Ian Blackford's tweet helpfully lists the backsliders https://twitter.com/IanBlackfordMP/status/1138855220837015558
Seems like the winning around process is going slightly backwards, then....there's no point sacking people who you need to win around, and may well still be able to: apparently 5 of the 8 hadn't rebelled on Brexit before, so they're not die hards.
17 labour abstentions too...on the nod from Magic Grandpa?
More than the the tories 12...even...
Rory Stewart’s thin veneer of common sense fell off and shattered on the ground on C4 news earlier when Cathy Newman challenged him on why he’d sided with the hard-Brexiters and voted with the government despite all his prior rhetoric. His defence was hopelessly weak.
The Tories have welched on pairing votes before- most infamously, Jo Swinson’s when she was having a baby. Where were all these Tory MPs? Let me guess- at their leadership launches or at their French villa. Pairing should only be for absence in exceptional circumstances like serious illness. That 25 Labour MPs voted with or abstained to let the Tories defeat another move to prevent a hard Brexit is utterly shameless and Ive no doubt this will be the final nail in their coffin in Scotland . Good f***ing riddance.Most of the Labour abstentions were paired with Tories - which explains the Tory abstentions too.
Opposition* playing possum?So the bill to try and give parliament the power to stop a no deal Brexit passed because of Labour abstainers and those voting with the Government.
Stephen
In fairness they had some help.So the bill to try and give parliament the power to stop a no deal Brexit passed because of Labour abstainers and those voting with the Government.
Stephen
I think Tom Kibasi's analysis is the only one that makes any sense now. If we assume, and we must, that the whole game is to keep the Tories in one piece, and in control of the country, a GE as we face the cliff-edge is a given. No-one will vote for Farage's lot if no-deal is in a Tory manifesto
If that's the case then what is the point of the fixed term Parliament act? I'd expect that under those circumstances Labour would be invited to try to form a government?This thread often seems to come back to fathoming Labour's thoughts, but they are always on the back foot. Surely, all the government at the time has to do is resign, go and see Brenda, and a GE follows?
This thread often seems to come back to fathoming Labour's thoughts, but they are always on the back foot. Surely, all the government at the time has to do is resign, go and see Brenda, and a GE follows?
Parliament voted for itSo how did Treeza do it? So much has happened in the last two years, I can't keep up!
In fairness they had some help.