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Whereas a stranger reading this thread might think they’d stumbled across anarchist central.
How quaint ... are we now expected to wear berets and wave red and black flags when entering the PFM cell
Whereas a stranger reading this thread might think they’d stumbled across anarchist central.
That's exactly how to distort what was originally written.FTFY
Yes, a bit like the one star Amazon reviews we all look at first.It's certainly whinge central but people need somewhere to vent. As so often happens on the internet, we can get a wrong impression due to vociferous posting...the same happens with product quality, it's easy to get a very distorted view from relatively few aggrieved people.
Same in Sheffield.I’m beginning to think all this state-enforced mourning must be a peculiarly urban phenomenon. Out here in the sticks I’ve walked around thirty miles this week and seen no sign of anyone dressed in black weeping, wailing and gnashing. Liz’s death has only been mentioned as a general topic for chat, like the weather or the bumper crop of blackberries. I feel I might be missing out. I mean, any event that turns the Grauniad from an object of ridicule in pfm’ers eyes to something to be linked to again and again must be worth investigating. Perhaps I should venture into the Big City at the weekend with a sheet of blank paper and see if I get banged up. If I am, I hope they let me out by Monday. I’ve got a day-long walk planned.
Although I don’t give a stuff about the monarchy and have rather less than no time at all for Andrew, I don’t think I can let that Twitter link go without comment - it is written as if this appointment has just been made, which is not the case - I suspect the author thinks it makes his point better to lead people to believe it is. Andrew has been one of Charles’ counsellors for God knows how long, a few Google searches tell me, along with four other royals whose names escape me. In fact, it seems there was outrage (there’s a lot of it about) when he wasn’t sacked from the position earlier in the year.I see that despite sacking 100 existing staff Charles has found a job for Nonce Andrew (Twitter).
People descending on capital to pay their respects to the monarchy, overwhelmingly support monarchy shocker.
Whodathunkit.
Your right it's an old royal tradition to promote eachAlthough I don’t give a stuff about the monarchy and have rather less than no time at all for Andrew, I don’t think I can let that Twitter link go without comment - it is written as if this appointment has just been made, which is not the case - I suspect the author thinks it makes his point better to lead people to believe it is. Andrew has been one of Charles’ counsellors for God knows how long, a few Google searches tell me, along with four other royals whose names escape me. In fact, it seems there was outrage (there’s a lot of it about) when he wasn’t sacked from the position earlier in the year.
Ah well, if it’s on TV that basically means it’s happening in London.Same in Sheffield.
Everyone is going about their business as usual.
The only weird shit is on TV.
Has anyone mentioned the shocking treatment handed out to the Queen Mother's cousins i.e. five of them being locked up in a mental hospital and their fictitious deaths being reported? They seem to go from one scandal to the next and nobody claims any memory for what went before...
I suppose those who support the Monarchy will overlook minor human blemishes whilst those who rabidly oppose will see him as a monster. In a similar way I’d suggest it appalling that Corbyn failed to bow in respect of the dead at a Remembrance Sunday service, but some are fine with such behaviour. It strikes me that many of the tweets flying around are by trots / anarchists. It would seem the (vocal) community here are also out of step with the feelings of the public at large.
I always suspected that Jean Luc Picard was a rabid Trot. Never once saw him lose his rag over a malfunctioning dilithium crystal.Corbyn may have been expressing his distaste for the way that "Remembrance" changed from being an expression of our deep desire never to kill so many of our young men ever again by sending them into battle, into a "Celebration of national spirit" (David Cameron) and glorification of war. It actually takes a lot of courage and grit to do what Corbyn did. To take a stand against orthodoxy. To care about reality, rather than fantasy, To suffer opprobrium from those who always conform.
Would you guess that more, or less, human suffering has been caused historically by dissent or by blind obedience to authority? Did you know that our WW1 memorials to the dead, in every village, were originally called "Peace Memorials"
This, below from some other "Trots/Anarchists" (Corbyn among them) from stopwar.org:
"Next year marks the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the first world war. Far from being a "war to end all wars" or a "victory for democracy", this was a military disaster and a human catastrophe.
We are disturbed, therefore, that David Cameron plans to spend £55m on a "truly national commemoration" to mark this anniversary. Mr Cameron quite inappropriately compared these events to the "diamond jubilee celebrations" and stated that their aim will be to stress our "national spirit". That they will be run at least in part by former generals and ex-defence secretaries reveals just how misconceived these plans are.
Instead we believe it is important to remember that this was a war that was driven by big powers' competition for influence around the globe, and caused a degree of suffering all too clear in the statistical record of 16 million people dead and 20 million wounded.
In 2014, we and others across the world will be organising cultural, political and educational activities to mark the courage of many involved in the war but also to remember the almost unimaginable devastation caused. In a time of international tension, we call on all those who agree with us to join us – by adding their names to ours at ww1.stopwar.org.uk – to ensure that this anniversary is used to promote peace and international co-operation.
Jude Law, Michael Morpurgo, Antony Gormley, Patrick Stewart, Carol Ann Duffy, Vanessa Redgrave, Simon Callow, Brian Eno, Lindsey German, Jeremy Corbyn MP, Tony Benn, Timothy West, Dominic Cooke, AL Kennedy, Janie Dee, Neil Faulkner, Heathcote Williams, Dame Harriet Walter, Tim Pigott-Smith, Roger Lloyd Pack, Alan Rickman, Ken Loach, Ralph Steadman, Ken Livingstone, Rob Montgomery, Duncan Heining, Chris Nineham, Kate Hudson, Jan Woolf, Peter Kennard, Andy de la Tour, Evan Parker, Robert Wyatt, Colin Towns, Chris Searle, Neil Yates, Steve Berry, Leo Aylen, Danny Thompson, Terry Jones, Kika Markham, Susan Wooldridge, Tony Haynes, Mike Dibb, Nic France, Leon Rosselson, Barry Miles, Liane Aukin, Alistair Beaton"