Cricket 2023
- Thread starter Spraggons Den
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canonman
pfm Member
And out first ball
The Captain
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And this is so ridiculous, it's Marnus schmarnus.
Bob McC
Living the life of Riley
Ridiculous post and you know it.
He is still the world’s best batsman.
To say Anything else is jingoistic nonsense.
Utter nonsense. Root could have been out next ball, it’s not a fact that he would scored 30-40 runs, he could have been stranded at the other end.
We won away on the subcontinent, we literally never do that.
They would have looked at the weather forecast & made a call.
What pickle are we in, 35 runs ahead with 8 wickets.
With a less aggressive outlook we could have scored more slowly & ended up being bowled out for 250.
I personally would have liked a few more runs in the first innings but I respect the decision; sometimes you just have to back the players.
canonman
pfm Member
Complete bollox
The Captain
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Oh calm down you silly toddler. You're just blind drunk to every bazball idea being correct. Zombified thinking.
My point has perfect validity. You wait, when we lose Vaughan summerising on TMS at stumps, will look back & say this decision was too early.. & we should've taken the time & the likely 30 runs we would've got right here.
Barrymagrec
pfm Member
Who to trust? A team and captain who have had unprecedented success over the last 15 months or experts on a Hi Fi forum.......tricky one.
Come on chaps, this is a cricket thread not a cable thread, a little less aggression please.
Come on chaps, this is a cricket thread not a cable thread, a little less aggression please.
The Captain
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The Captain
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Played Australia during these 15 months have we then? Aussies who've just been crowned WTC champions?
There are some very naiive opinions on this thread.
Rockmeister
pfm Member
But you risk being boring and zzzzzz! Surely the sponsors will be disappointed?
2ManyBoxes
pfm Member
The Aussies have always been strong at working out the weaknesses of a batting side. There are too many batsmen in the top order who have holes in their technique, like the opening pair and a lot of the rest of the order do. The injuries to Stokes and Leach are critical.
I can see the Aussies powering away with it as the summer progresses. Sadly. They have more depth in batting and bowling.
They don't seem to be quite as obnoxious as previous sides, apart from that irredeemable person (took a lot of restraint to write that) Warner. I'm sure they'll revert to type once they start winning.
They don't like bouncers, we use that tactic now a lot more than they do, which is ironic for the nation that brought us Thommo.
On balance, I do still hate their guts
but I think they're going to win
I can see the Aussies powering away with it as the summer progresses. Sadly. They have more depth in batting and bowling.
They don't seem to be quite as obnoxious as previous sides, apart from that irredeemable person (took a lot of restraint to write that) Warner. I'm sure they'll revert to type once they start winning.
They don't like bouncers, we use that tactic now a lot more than they do, which is ironic for the nation that brought us Thommo.
On balance, I do still hate their guts
but I think they're going to win
The Captain
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Well, what a surprise. Michael Vaughan, who I think is the best commentator out there bar none, & knows a thing or two about winning an ashes series (if my memory serves me correctly):
"“I wouldn’t have declared,” former England captain Michael Vaughan said on BBC Test Match Special. “You just don’t know what is going to happen. England are trying to send a message no team has ever done before. I, as a captain, would’ve wanted a few more runs, especially with Joe Root out there.
Rest my case m'lud. And I think nowadays I do a "drops mic" thing too at this juncture. Is that right?
Capt
"“I wouldn’t have declared,” former England captain Michael Vaughan said on BBC Test Match Special. “You just don’t know what is going to happen. England are trying to send a message no team has ever done before. I, as a captain, would’ve wanted a few more runs, especially with Joe Root out there.
Rest my case m'lud. And I think nowadays I do a "drops mic" thing too at this juncture. Is that right?
Capt
Spraggons Den
pfm Member
Well the weather looks good for batting today and England will again want to score quickly in order to setup tomorrow when after rain in the morning it looks overcast/muggy and a difficult day for Australia to bat through. We just have to play Lyon well (easier said than done) first. It’s been a terrific start to the series with England going toe to toe with the world champions - they must not flinch.
Andrew C!
Been around a while....
A simple question - when Stokes was appointed captain, would you have taken 11 wins out of 13 tests played? Would you have taken the number of records broken in achieving such numbers?
I'll repeat what I've previously said on this topic, if these kinds of numbers had been commenced 12 months earlier, we'd have been in the final.
Today does hinge around any of our batsmen getting 50 or more. If we have three that do so, then we don't lose this test. We might win it, or the weather get in the way, but a 250+ lead will be enough.
Rockmeister
pfm Member
Even bazzball will take too long to get 250. 250 means a draw. There’s rain around and on form Ozzy bowling. If we can smash 180/200, I’d think a declaration worth it, esp if the pitch is breaking up and that sore spin finger is useable.
If you are citing Vaughan, the argument is lost. He just says the opposite of everything & has a vested interest. He’s also a Tory, a Brexiter & a fake Yorkshireman. No guarantees in life.