Wait until you hear the effect of proper isolation!
Move the rack from between the speakers to a sidewall if you haven't already.have you got any ideas for further tweaking?
Move the rack from between the speakers to a sidewall if you haven't already.
Between the speakers is the worst position for a rack.
I'd move mine too, but unfortunately that isn't possible here.
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WRT isolation, all my hifi boxes are on sorbothane hemispheres of the appropriate durometer for the weight of each components. However, having heard the extent of improvement from installing 'proper' isolating pucks beneath my speakers I'm tempted to try pucks under my components too.
Move the rack from between the speakers to a sidewall if you haven't already.
Between the speakers is the worst position for a rack.
I'd move mine too, but unfortunately that isn't possible here.
@ToTo Man It isn't about imaging it is about sound pressure maximum between the speakers and therefore vibration. Speakers behind the speakers is even worse, but as long as you are happy with your setup.
Don't take it personal because I don't write this addressed to you.
To me it is very funny to watch people tweaking their systems with cables and isolation platforms and so on but they don't get the fundamentals right.
Speaker position, acoustic room treatment (I don't call flowers, furniture and curtains room treatment), listening position.
It is like to buy a VW Golf 2.0 put on 2.000€ alloy rims, a big muffler and rally stripes and then tell everybody how big the difference in performance is and how well you can drive it since the tuning.
I prefer a 3.0 Mercedes E class with steel rims instead of the VW Golf 2.0.
@ToTo Man
To me it is very funny to watch people tweaking their systems with cables and isolation platforms and so on but they don't get the fundamentals right.
Speaker position, acoustic room treatment (I don't call flowers, furniture and curtains room treatment), listening position.
What equipment rack are you using?
Once again for safety: I neither meant you @beammeup nor @ToTo Man !
I'm in another German hifi forum, setups for XX.000€ but position totally crap, room empty and no treatment, but expansive cables (even LAN cables!), and hifi Voodoo all over the place.
But my example wasn't the best, I should have said: The buy a Bentley but fit 165mm all season tires on it which are 15 years old and with too hard or to soft setup for the suspension system and the wrong motor setting. And tell everybody how great their car is and that they can drive like Lewis Hamilton.
I'm searching for more then an hour now but I don't find that article I have read. Sorry. If I find it I will send it to you.No worries, I understood you weren't directly referring to me. Nevertheless I am still keen to learn about the vibration problems caused by placing the hifi rack between the speakers, and also the consequences of having unused speakers behind the main speakers?
Ooh, those stand mounts- what are they and are they good?... interesting - but the reason I went for the whole rack, is that the whole thing is designed for resonance control so that I should have less need to put the components themselves on any further isolating feet or whatever, when the rack shelf itself is designed to do this without additional pucks / cones / etc.
Having said that - I still feel the need to use large sorbothane feet under the DAC.
What equipment rack are you using? Many use standard furniture where I suspect the need for isolation cones etc are needed far more. I also suspect that more expensive equipment put a lot of engineering in resonance control in and around the electronics thus negating the need to worry about the support as much - I can cheat - I can buy cheap equipment and let the rack provide the control amounting to the same thing .
I'm not blessed with a dedicated listening room so I also have to leave the kit in the position shown. Not best placed I know with speakers generally firing directly overhead. This is why support / resonance control makes such a significant difference in my setup I suspect. I continue listening as I type and the performance is so much better!
Ooh, those stand mounts- what are they and are they good?
Ah, is that foam at the bottom the end of a transmission line?At risk of stealing @beammeup's thunder, they're IMF Super Compacts and yes, they're very good. I owned a pair with veneered baffles a few years ago and regret selling them. The only flaw my ears perceived was a slightly recessed lower midrange but they were otherwise excellent, very detailed and open.
AIUI it's a form of resistive damping, as opposed to a proper full transmission line which requires a much larger enclosure:Ah, is that foam at the bottom the end of a transmission line?