Jonathan Ribee
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Owls are masons?
Maybe not, but Nick Mason may be an owl. He's just got the look..
Owls are masons?
Interesting, I had not heard of this.
Can you link to some examples and I'll try to decipher them for you?
P.S. Owls have no connections with Freemasonry in my experience. Lovely birds though.
Have any of the posters on this thread been blackballed ?.
Maybe not, but Nick Mason may be an owl. He's just got the look..
Nah, the secret word is *whisper it* Jahbulon.
Masons really don't like it when you say Jahbulon.
So best try to avoid saying Jahbulon.
I only say Jahbulon when it is absolutely necessary.
Dennis Healy was definitely an owl.
Interesting, I had not heard of this.
Can you link to some examples and I'll try to decipher them for you?
P.S. Owls have no connections with Freemasonry in my experience. Lovely birds though.
If you do a google/you tube search for Hip Hop and Freemasonry, you will see what I am getting at. It was more prevalent a couple of years ago. There seemed to be a big trend/fashion for using such imagery in promo videos at that time.
They appear to associate aspects of Freemasonry with the idea of an Illuminati - a secret society behind world events, social trends/control, politics, celebrity, mass media, Hollywood, the music industry etc.
There seems to be a branch of Hip Hop (commercial) which celebrates the idea of an elite secret society and then there is a more underground Hip Hop movement which is opposed to the idea of such a Freemasonic influenced, secret society pulling the strings and this rap/video is an example of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0bfDm43so
Many of those apply to my wife who is the 'Supreme Being' in our household
Supreme office is not sufficient I'm afraid.
My point of course is you're a religion. The supreme being part has been pared down to a sort of abstraction, but the religious essence remains. The doctrine stipulates one must believe in a single all-powerful god figure. That's a spiritual creed, seems to me.
The Catholics, too, are into ritual for ritual's sake, you just take it further. Indeed, one social explanation for the Mason's past success is that they were Protestantism's answer to Catholicism, pomp-and-ritual-wise.
Freemasonry is not a religion. We have to believe in a supreme being personally but nowhere in the ceremonies do we have any kind of worship; that is a key element of a religion.
"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods"
My take on this is,"If you believe in a supreme being, you will believe in anything = gullible fools."
I have been involved in property litigation with a group of "Trouser Leggers."
What a bunch of lying forging crooks.
I am sure FMs are not all bad, but those with wealth and power DO abuse it!
So, if they were lying forging crooks I assume they are in/went to prison or had some form of legal censure.
I'm sure some wealthy Freemasons in power have abused their positions, they will represent a tiny, tiny minority though.
I won't get into the belief part, religion and the belief in it or not is a much wider topic than this thread.
The KLF video at the start of this thread is choc full of Masonic stuff.
Love that song, justified and ancient, moo moo land, marvellous.
Alcoholics Anonymous require some appeal to a "Power Greater Than Ourselves".
Worshipful Master - It is my duty to inform you that Masonry is free, and requires a perfect freedom of inclination in every Candidate for its mysteries. It is founded on the purest principles of piety and virtue. It possesses great and invaluable privileges, and in order to secure those privileges. to worthy men, and we trust to worthy men alone, vows of fidelity are required; but let me assure you that in those vows there is nothing incompatible with your civil, moral, or religious duties. Are you therefore willing to take a Solemn Obligation founded on the principles I have stated, to keep inviolate the secrets and mysteries of the Order?