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Van attack at Finsbury park mosque.

Mikeandvan said:
Another libtard with a fear of the masses. I've got no time for the Alt-right, so don't make assumptions. I know its easier to pigeon hole people.
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But your use of libtard shows that you have adopted the language of the alt-right. It's the sticky finger that shows you've been dipping into the honey jar.
 
Mikeandvan said:
Having trouble keeping up Still? I defend everyone's right to free speech, including Islamist F***wits, incitement to violence is a murkier area. But yes I defend my right to call for the over throwing of the state, as that is what I once believed in. Unfortunately that means we have to listen to these bearded little thugs, and I find them repellent. Of course, that's not to say we can't deal with them our selves is it? Just like we used to deal with racists back in the 80s.
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Mike, what does "taking things into our own hands mean"? Concrete examples please.

If it simply amounts to peer pressure against extremists, what makes you think that doesn't already happen in Muslim families and the wider community?

What are you doing to combat far-right extremism in your local community?
 
Mikeandvan said:
And I wholly disagree with libel laws, and so called hate crimes. These are new laws brought in by that daft liberal Blair. Libel laws are usually used by the rich and powerful to silence people. If you were a communist, the state could silence you through hate crimes/incitement to violence, as you would be advocating the overthrow of the state, communism is something I have supported in the past. I think I should be allowed to air my support for it.
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Your inability to write concise English is highly amusing.
Unless you actually do believe that the law of Libel was introduced by Blair!
 
Still said:
If you consider a POV to be legitimate then you have agreed with it - especially if you consider it intelligent in presentation (or otherwise).
I know pfm is a mixed ability forum, but this is getting ridiculous!
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I am a Socialist but recognise that Tory scum are entitled to hold their vile opinions.

Stop trolling for once in your life.
 
Cav said:
So why did Mair kill Jo Cox? You seem to claim to know.
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istr in the days after Jo's murder you spent a lot of time telling pfm you would be waiting for the final judgement.
Didn't you read it? Or have you forgotten what you read?

I am a Socialist but recognise that Tory scum are entitled to hold their vile opinions.
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Big of you, but this is a discussion forum.

Stop trolling for once in your life.
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Once again your first contribution to a thread relates to the poster, and not the topic.
Trolling? Know yourself, girlfriend.
 
Still said:
istr in the days after Jo's murder you spent a lot of time telling pfm you would be waiting for the final judgement.
Didn't you read it? Or have you forgotten what you read?



Big of you, but this is a discussion forum.



Once again your first contribution to a thread relates to the poster, and not the topic.
Trolling? Know yourself, girlfriend.
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Girlfriend? Girlfriend? You are a peculiar specimen.
 
Michael P said:
It is interesting how different this forum is to another I'm a member of. On there, the opinions so far are:
  1. This was an attack on Abu Hamzu's mosque, so while it might be unfortunate it is justified
  2. The Imam protecting the attacker proves that Muslims are violent and bloodthirsty, as otherwise he wouldn't need protecting (personal favourite)
  3. It is a hoax attack, as "proved" by a YouTube video
  4. It is Sadiq Khan's fault
  5. The Muslim Council of Britain was quick to condemn this, unlike any attack on non-Muslims (probably bollocks, can't be bothered to check)
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Sadly, I suspect those opinions are more in line with mainstream thinking in the UK right now, more so than the opinions expressed by the majority of posters on this site.
 
Michael P said:
It is interesting how different this forum is to another I'm a member of. On there, the opinions so far are:
  1. This was an attack on Abu Hamzu's mosque, so while it might be unfortunate it is justified
  2. The Imam protecting the attacker proves that Muslims are violent and bloodthirsty, as otherwise he wouldn't need protecting (personal favourite)
  3. It is a hoax attack, as "proved" by a YouTube video
  4. It is Sadiq Khan's fault
  5. The Muslim Council of Britain was quick to condemn this, unlike any attack on non-Muslims (probably bollocks, can't be bothered to check)
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Which forum is that?
 
Mikeandvan said:
What is my opinion? That we need to crack down on Islamist terrorism, shocking! One of these white boy terrorists comes along once in blue moon, the threat from homegrown Islamist terrorism is far greater. The rest your just filling in yourself. Another libtard with a fear of the masses. I've got no time for the Alt-right, so don't make assumptions. I know its easier to pigeon hole people.
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Sorry Mike but you do come across as having a bit of an alt-right/EDL type leaning. I'm imagining a St Georges flag draped across your van, a subscription to Rebel Media and a burning admiration for Tommy Robinson.
 
Just their souls at the moment, the ran out of T-shirts last week.
 
It's been said before, but the way the imam and congregation at Finsbury Park handled the attacker in the aftermath was most impressive. Respect.
 
marvin1882 said:
Sorry Mike but you do come across as having a bit of an alt-right/EDL type leaning. I'm imagining a St Georges flag draped across your van, a subscription to Rebel Media and a burning admiration for Tommy Robinson.
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Yeh whatever, carry on being dismissive, I've never read anything from EDL/Breitbart etc, wouldn't waste my time. I have however ordered the new Douglas Murray book 'The strange Death of Europe'. I suppose that will be further evidence of my rabid jingoism. Remember you can read widely form different sources, there are some things which both the left and the right agree on.
 
Douglas Murray is an utter cock. I suspect all on the centre and left of politics can agree on that. A writer for people who think they are too intelligent for Katie Hopkins, but in reality just want her tweets in a longer form to savour.
 
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