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Your loudspeaker holy grail

Discussion in 'audio' started by James, May 26, 2021.

  1. gryphongryph

    gryphongryph Active Member

    Good idea.
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  2. Tigerjones

    Tigerjones Bagpuss

    Hi Kasper, yeah the mini bit made me laugh. Not what I’d call mini.
    kasperhauser likes this.
  3. Rick_F

    Rick_F pfm Member

    Soundlab A1, yes please.
  4. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Hawkwind and Fire

    Perfectly restored pair of Kef 107.2s. Maybe a pair of Spendor SP200's, too.
  5. hockman

    hockman pfm Member

    Naim DBLs. And I actually owned my holy grail, for about 20 years...
  6. Bas V

    Bas V pfm Member

    The older Smashing Pumpkins albums are always on my list when testing speakers. I have heard them sounding terrible on some 'reference' systems. Being able to play easy jazz or classical does not mean you can rock!
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  7. James

    James Lord of the Erg\o/s

    I've heard quite a few pairs of DBLs, in both active and passive configurations. They sound effortless, but unremarkable. Maybe they are like the NS-1000Ms to me from a different era, where I didn't get them, but now do.
  8. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Likewise, and likewise not a fan. I’d personally take SBLs over them, though they are a lot better than NBLs!
  9. htm_1968

    htm_1968 pfm Member

    Setting a low bar/Damning with faint praise there....
  10. sideshowbob

    sideshowbob 47 Lab Rat

    Tannoy Westminster Royals. I even have a living room big enough for them. Don't think it'll ever get approval from the rest of the family, so I slum it with Tannoy Mansfields, which are not exactly small, it must be said.
  11. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    FWIW I do actually like SBLs. They are exceptionally easy to set up badly, but if you have a suitable room and a lot of care they can sound good.

    In fairness I just don’t like ‘far field’ listening, so DBLs or NBLs were never going to be for me. Listened to in the mid-field or closer they just sound like three random drivers thrown at a wardrobe, they have none of the coherence of a Tannoy point source, let alone an ESL or BBC box.
    Jono_13, brumjam, cooky1257 and 2 others like this.
  12. sideshowbob

    sideshowbob 47 Lab Rat

    Lol at "three random drivers thrown at a wardrobe"
    Garrard 401, cooky1257 and Darren L like this.
  13. S-Man

    S-Man Kinkless Tetrode Admirer

    Cure for coveting massive "hi-end" speakers: go to the Munich show!!;)

    Big Quad electostatics and big Maggies can be wonderful, the smaller Quads just don't sound right to me. Heard enough for them not be on my "must do" list.
    Yet to hear a Harbeth, Proac or Tannoy that really does the business. So they are not on my list, even though I have not heard them all.
    Omnis - generalising... amazing with classical, poor with rock music. So not on the list.
    ATC - excellent mids, just wish they would sort the bass (not heard the sealed box actives).
    Yam NS1000 & Gale 401 - close but no E-cigar
    BBC style mini monitors - even closer (when converted to 3-way)

    So that's most of the forum darlings done (and now everyone hates me :D). Although I do agree that Snell Type As are superb.

    That just leaves improvements on what I've got:
    I would like to try a version of my bass extenders (prototype KC62 technology done in analogue) with big radiating area, say 3 X 12" per side. It would be interesting to see how this drives the room compared to the 3 X 7" drivers per side I currently have.
    I would like to find something better for the mids and treble than my Murphy CAOW1s, but after looking and trying for about 10 years I have not succeeded. LS50 Meta might just be the answer.
    Last edited: May 28, 2021
  14. oldius

    oldius Can pleasure be measured?

    I have had so many pairs, including B&W 801, Kef Reference 104.2, Beauhorn, 3 pairs of studio JBL, and my current NS1000, and many more.

    The latter is it, for me. They are suited to my room and that is the biggest factor in how a loudspeaker performs.
    Last edited: May 28, 2021
  15. htm_1968

    htm_1968 pfm Member

    I wasn't having a pop Tony. NBLs are possibly the least impressive loudspeakers I've heard regularly. I had active SBLs and SL2s in the past. Once set up properly they can be quite decent, but the SL2s seemed to benefit from an nSub to a worrying extent. All were trounced by the ART Alnico 8s I've had for the last seven years.
  16. Euan

    Euan pfm Member

    I have my dream speakers.

    But for fun I'd love to hear the biggest Maggies there and some mahoosive Kenrick Sound JBLs.
  17. chartz

    chartz If it’s broke fix it!

    Look, I’m listening to Midnight Train right now on my OTA ESL57 speakers, Quad CD66, 34, 306.
    Why bother with anything else ? :)
    Yes, the bass even make my boards rattle, would you believe it?
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  18. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I was feeling the same way listening to some ECM CDs (Jarrett, Motain etc) via the TL12 Plus and LS3/5As last night. An improbably good system! I just don’t need anything more than that to be honest.
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  19. chartz

    chartz If it’s broke fix it!

    Diminishing returns…
  20. hockman

    hockman pfm Member

    DBLs are not about refinement, imaging, or transparency. They are about visceral, dynamic, in your face impact, kinda like a live performance. I happen to think they are very coherent indeed but you do need some distance between you and them.

    But I agree they are very much an acquired taste. I'd expect not that many will like them. I've owned IBLs, SBLs and DBLs. I've liked the SBLs the least...

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