Enfield boy
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Or a sensible precaution against a serial plotter. Discuss.
why Corbyn may well win the next election.
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It's not about Corbyn, it's about changing the Labour party apparatus to ensure that the left direction the party is taking is not derailed.
Enfield boy
pfm Member
Indeed, Labour is looking again like the sort of party Attlee could have felt at home in. Blair, Mandelson, Brown, Gould et al undertook a "hostile takeover" and re-branded it "New Labour". It was, in fact, slightly watered down Thatcherism.
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That's the irony of the 'For the many, not the few' mantra - my take is that he is focussed on the few and not the many, just that his few is underprivileged as opposed to the privileged, either way I think on balance the vast majority would lose out in economic decline. Sh1t scared is not really a state of mind that affects me much; I tend towards pragmatic evaluation and consequent action.
Anyway, a new kind of politics?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45553748
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Economic decline? Do you mean the sort that comes from failure to invest in services.. (as opposed to investing in paying incompetent outsourcers to cut them) in education, R&D, infrastructure, ..industry even? Do you mean that kind of economic decline? The type we've been experiencing under every Tory Govt since Thatcher?
Or is there some other kind....?
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
An exercise in Whataboutery I think... As I keep saying... Tory supporters have nothing positive to say about the Tory record on ANYTHING, so are reduced to sniping at the opposition. which they fear greatly.
Let us not forgot that they only gained power because of an exceptionally ill advised move by the Lib Dems and only remain in power by a pact with Irish Bigots. They are very, very vulnerable.
It's role has always been to be the voice of the establishment. All we need is for MickP to be named director general and we'd be blessed.
Tony L
Administrator
Just watched most of Corbyn’s speech (the first 40 minutes or so) and it was very good indeed IMO. Sadly I still can’t buy his Brexit position though, which is highly annoying as I like the rest of his arguments. For me it is still a sticking point (I can’t accept anything that doesn’t at least promise a second referendum with remain as an option), but one I suspect is likely to change before I’m asked to vote for anything. I thought he was very strong on the other stuff and I’d happily vote for it.
ff1d1l
pfm Member
It reminded me of the Election night, when it became obvious that this was not going to be the expected tory walkover. And for that night and a week or so later, they, the BBC, changed their tone, an obvious brown trouser moment re past performance and the possibility of future accounting for their actions.
Corbyn's performance and reception made me think the incontinence pants might be out again, and with reason.
No coughing fit, no comedy routine of letters falling off, genuine appreciation from his audience.
Statesmanlike.
As for May, I wonder if she'll pull any more comedy gold out the bag this year?
It's incredible how Corbyn has grown into his role; especially as it doesn't come naturally to him. I thought his speech was outstanding in content and delivery. In fact, I think the conference has been a massive launch pad for Labour. The green energy plans are superb and the general public will really identify with the fairness for the many theme.
My big bet on Labour winning the next election has never looked safer ;-)
I'm sure Labour will get your vote Tony but if not at least I'm comfortable in the knowledge that you'd rather chew your own leg off than vote Tory.
Actually, I'd make it law that anyone stupid enough to vote Tory had to chew their own leg off.