My point is, people always jump on the battery life bandwagon while ignoring the hundred and forty years of problematic ICE cars.
Anyone else find it comical that, after years of threads containing tales of woe about car reliability, suddenly everyone has incredibly reliable petrol cars that will have to be prised from their cold, dead hands?
Batteries. Very poor energy density compared to gasolene.True, but some poor owner down the line will be caught with the suspension and brakes servicing bill to pull off that trick. Surely the car doesn't need to be that heavy - WTF is in it?
I've no idea, doubt it cause right now there's very few electric cars on the road relative to petrol cars and certainly think the last I read there has only been about 40,000 EV vans sold.
https://www.nextgreencar.com/electric-cars/statistics/
Batteries. Very poor energy density compared to gasolene.
If I did 1-2,000 miles per year I’d use taxis and hire cars. Simple as that.Here's one pensioner who thinks it's a very poor deal, paying more p.a. than depreciation costs, by and large, but not owning the vehicle. Worry free? I'd worry a heck of a lot more driving someone else's car, Tony. Last year I did 1000 miles, my MOT cert. says (2000+ prior to Covid). A small electric reincarnation of the bubble car (and no, not the Smart Four-two) would suffice as I could get it into my garage; however, I need an estate. Snookered !
Ah sorry. No idea. As it's a hybrid (ahem), I guess there's a battery, but apart from that, there's quite a big lump of engine under the bonnet. And rear-wheel steer, and towbar, and.......whatevs, it doesn't matterI thought you meant the RS6 petrol that weighs 2 tonne.
If I did 1-2,000 miles per year I’d use taxis and hire cars. Simple as that.
Liking the look of this, KIA are really on top of this EV game at the minute.
Vans are a very different matter though, they have to do decent mileages whilst loaded which kills range. You're one of the few tradies I know that does such low mileage, no wonder your van has needed nothing! You'd easily get by with an EV van, I'm not in a too dissimilar trade to yourself but I do between 40-45k a year with a half loaded van, an EV equivalent is miles of for me for a while I think. I'd love one though if I had access to home charging.
The Sky installer over the road from me has an electric Transit, Sky put him the charger in, he reckons it is the best van he's had but again I think he has a very local patch so does barely any miles, some nights I've noticed he doesn't even put it on charge.
I think the relevance of OTR price will dwindle as the years go by, only the wealthy will be able to afford to buy a car out right and they won't be too bothered how much they cost. Young people will just rent them like they will everything else as wages fail to keep pace with inflation - houses, cars, phones, TVs, furniture etc. all rented and swapped for the new version at a whim when you're bored of it or it is out of fashion.
They'll have to come a time when a cheap EV is a no-brainer even for the stubborn ICE car owner hanging on to their 20-30 year old car, they won't be forced by the government so much as social stigma as I can easily see the time coming that doing anything seriously polluting like burning petrol/diesel will be like drink driving/smoking.
Wouldn't work and would be totally inconvenient as I'd have to wait for taxis (and order one for a return) and a hire car would cost a packet; far more than current costs.
That EV6 does look interesting and the likes of Kia do seem like they'll get where I need them to be pretty soon, but it's got a starting price of £40,895 which seems a lot. The longest term they'll give figures for on PCP is 37 months and with 15,000 miles per annum you're looking at a deposit of just over £4K and monthly costs of £643 plus a final payment of £17,700. That comes to about nearly £28K to have it for 3 years, which is £9,300 a year - makes the iPace look relatively cheap by comparison i.e. 10K per year for an iPace or 9K per year for a Kia?
I just wouldn’t care. A car isn’t only expense, it’s hassle too. I’m no club cyclist, but I cycled well over a thousand miles last year. Still, it’s nice to have the choiceWouldn't work and would be totally inconvenient as I'd have to wait for taxis (and order one for a return) and a hire car would cost a packet; far more than current costs.
Don’t forget buses and trains, with a bit of patience and planning they can be part of the solution too.I just wouldn’t care. A car isn’t only expense, it’s hassle too. I’m no club cyclist, but I cycled well over a thousand miles last year. Still, it’s nice to have the choice
Don’t forget buses and trains, with a bit of patience and planning they can be part of the solution too.