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What would forums look like if posters of long rhetorical circular missives were allowed only tweet-sized replies? Twitter, I guess #Brevity
My system sounds great!
My system still sounds great!
Went to another room. My system sounds great from here too!
Back in listening room
Thinking about having a beer
By the way, my system sounds great!
What would forums look like if posters of long rhetorical circular missives were allowed only tweet-sized replies? Twitter, I guess #Brevity
I think Vital's recent experiments and threads have been really helpful so thanks to you. I'm just an old fashioned enthusiast who just wants to hear what was recorded as close to the original as possible. I notice that the subjectivist argument has moved in recent months from hi-fidelity or accuracy to 'what I like'. Not surprising as any other position is clearly untenable.
Good link, I miss Ian Dury.Or this Ian Drury song Clevor Trevor
You are not fooling anyone, Theodore.Some of us don't have to pretend!
Keith.
SETs sound amazing with certain recordings but crumble when presented with many others, IMO. Not really my bag.This is a straw man. The divide is still whether you believe measured accuracy is a guarantee of fidelity. I think that may be a good starting point but by no means does it guarantee fidelity.
Another straw man is that subjectivists like the effects of colouration and distortion. The suggestion being that subjectivists like sonic artifice that detracts from fidelity.
The true subjectivist viewpoint is that crude measurements of FR and THD only tell a very small part of the story and therefore the ear should be the final arbiter.
This is a very informative thread that more than touches on the subject:
http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?74401-SETs-and-measurists
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The true subjectivist viewpoint is that crude measurements of FR and THD only tell a very small part of the story and therefore the ear should be the final arbiter.
SETs sounds amazing with certain recordings but crumble when presented with many others, IMO. Not really my bag.
But the question is - what is it that gives it this amazingness with certain recordings over other amplifiers with the same recordings?
The true subjectivist viewpoint is that crude measurements of FR and THD only tell a very small part of the story and therefore the ear should be the final arbiter.
I'm of the view that the seeker for truth (whatever you label them) would be quiet happy to accept measurements that can accurately predict how something will sound - the disappearance of obj/subj divide, amen
This is a straw man. The divide is still whether you believe measured accuracy is a guarantee of fidelity. I think that may be a good starting point but by no means does it guarantee fidelity.
Another straw man is that subjectivists like the effects of colouration and distortion. The suggestion being that subjectivists like sonic artifice that detracts from fidelity.
The true subjectivist viewpoint is that crude measurements of FR and THD only tell a very small part of the story and therefore the ear should be the final arbiter.
This is a very informative thread that more than touches on the subject:
http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?74401-SETs-and-measurists
Whoosh!Sorry, I picked the nuts and bolts as an extreme, absurd example. Now way I could have imagined that someone would take it as a serious suggestion.
I guess I should just have set up a company marketing audiophile nuts and bolts instead...