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Never thought this thread would emulate a Star Trek one; only wanted to impart a joke. Now there's a Moneypenny for your thoughts.
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The best Bond? Not sure I agree.
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She still complains about the infringement.
Different times.
out of interest: I have had my bottom pinched by a man in a gay club. And I think he winked when I turned around. My wife fell about laughing when I told her.
different times.
On 'Never say...'
It's based on 'Thunderball' wich was origanally written as a film manus for/by Kevin McClory and Jack Whittingham (both films has basically the same plot). Lot's of sueing in courts etc, etc. So it was (somehow) possible to do 'Never...' outside the Broccoli world.
I haven't seen the recent ones, but to me the best movie is 'On her Majestys...'. It has a decent plot that has more than a little to do with the book, COOL action scenes with helicopters and skiing and (oh!!) Diana Rig. Lazenby? Well, honestly, you don't need to be a Shakespeare certified actor to do Bond.
What I would love is a serious adaption of the novells set in their original 1950/60 world. Possibly by the BBC Cast? In the TV-series 'The Hour' Ben Wishaw calles Romola Garai 'Moneypenny', she would actually be perfect for the job! Bond? Any ideas?
It's based on 'Thunderball' wich was origanally written as a film manus for/by Kevin McClory and Jack Whittingham (both films has basically the same plot). Lot's of sueing in courts etc, etc. So it was (somehow) possible to do 'Never...' outside the Broccoli world.
I haven't seen the recent ones, but to me the best movie is 'On her Majestys...'. It has a decent plot that has more than a little to do with the book, COOL action scenes with helicopters and skiing and (oh!!) Diana Rig. Lazenby? Well, honestly, you don't need to be a Shakespeare certified actor to do Bond.
What I would love is a serious adaption of the novells set in their original 1950/60 world. Possibly by the BBC Cast? In the TV-series 'The Hour' Ben Wishaw calles Romola Garai 'Moneypenny', she would actually be perfect for the job! Bond? Any ideas?
Jonathan
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** chortles**
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If you haven't seen any of the Daniel Craig Bond films, may I suggest Casino Royale (2006) it has a different flavour to the previous recent efforts. Craig does a good job, his hair is the wrong colour for me. O.H.M.S.S. is my fav bond, and the Daniel Craig films compare favourably.
I would have liked to have seen Clive Owen as Bond.
PaulMB
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The first three: "Dr. No", "From Russia with Love," and "Goldfinger."
PaulMB
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Craig is a very good actor, as in "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo," for instance. But as JB he is too body-built and thuggish-loutish. Hi suits are too tight, and he has more the face and physique of a bodyguard than of a highly intelligent secret agent. In this sense Connery combined the gentlemanly exterior of manners and beautiful suits with cold brutality when needed.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Spot on. Craig looks like the sort of hired thug who occasionally emerges to whisper into the ear of a dictator. Nothing like Fleming's creation.
George Lazenby was primarily working as a model when he got the Bond gig with no prior stage or screen experience apart from some advertising work. Lazenby's agent had told him that Broccoli and Salzman were doing auditions, so he put his name in, more for experience than any hope of landing the role. By his own account, he then blew most of his cash buying a suit from Connery's tailor to wear at the test, turned up, did what he thought was a terrible screentest, and chalked it down to experience. A couple of days later, when he got the nod, he started to panic, famously complaining to his agent "But I'm not an actor!", to which came the reply "the man who just convinced the most hard-nosed producer in the movie business that he deserves the role of James f__king Bond is telling me he can’t act??". Lazenby did do a crash-course in acting before shooting began, but he basically turned up for the first day of shooting with zero real experience: you could probably work out the filming schedule by grading his performance in each scene.
That lack of experience caused Lazenby to over-compensate for feelings of inferiority, earning him a deserved reputation for arrogance and rudeness on-set. At one point, he was so unpopular that during a particular action shot, when the stunt coordinator mentioned there was a risk that Lazenby could be injured, the director Peter Hunt replied coolly “No one’s seen him yet. If we kill him, we could do it all over again.”
It’s still my favourite Bond film, and for a total newcomer not just to Bond but even to acting, Lazenby puts in an really strong performance.
(My brother-in-law lent me a book about the production of the Bond films; it's not particularly well-written, but the stories are good enough to survive that: like the time filming of Thunderball was interrupted by a man passing by on his luxury yacht. He apologised for the intrusion, but said he had to say something as he was the owner of the Dom Perignon champagne house, and as its sales had more than doubled since being name-dropped in Doctor No, the crew were invited to his private villa for a party at his expense, it being the least he could do in return...)
I saw half of CR, until Bond ran out to the car where he just 'happened' to have the perfect antidote. Oh God...
Agre on Clive Owen, he looks a bit like a cruel version Flemming, just like I allways imagined him while reading the books.
If you come to Sweden there is a Bond museum http://www.007museum.com/ The museum is better than the site.
Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
And one of the all-time best Bond one-liners - "He had a lot of guts"
Or the 'That never happened to the other guy.'
Yeah, that hacked me off too. Spoilt a series of films in which the plots were all highly credible and so well grounded in reality.
(I can’t believe I’m defending a Bond plot, but…)
In fairness, the actual scene in Casino Royale doesn’t ask the viewer to believe that he just happened to have the exact antidote in his glovebox...
Here it is (skip to 2’15”) :
So, Bond returns to the car, jabs himself with a needle attached to his phone that takes a sample which we are shown is analysed and identified remotely by a team of technicians at HQ. He’s then instructed to use a defibrillator and take a particular injection from a much larger set by the medical team working at HQ. As techno-fantasies in Bond films go, this one is at least some way grounded in the possible. We’re not shown the completion of whatever remedy he was supposed to take after defibrillation, but we can assume that as he’s not alone, there’s no further issue in administering it.
For greater “realism”, you could of course remove all of the manufactured peril and have Bond and company act as professionals who take precautions: you can in fact fire a defibrillator several times on the power available from a car battery; the real leads are far less flimsy; rather than waiting to the last moment, Vesper Lynd would have immediately followed Bond out of the room and brought him to the car, as she was tasked with keeping an eye on him; Bond himself would have gone straight to the car and medical kit, knowing that in the situation, some form of poisoning was the most likely cause of his sickness. But without that, you’ve got no tension and we’re into the realms of bad sci-fi, where we spend hour-long minutes of screen-time explaining things that everyone in the scene wouldn’t give a second thought about.
In fairness, the actual scene in Casino Royale doesn’t ask the viewer to believe that he just happened to have the exact antidote in his glovebox...
Here it is (skip to 2’15”) :
So, Bond returns to the car, jabs himself with a needle attached to his phone that takes a sample which we are shown is analysed and identified remotely by a team of technicians at HQ. He’s then instructed to use a defibrillator and take a particular injection from a much larger set by the medical team working at HQ. As techno-fantasies in Bond films go, this one is at least some way grounded in the possible. We’re not shown the completion of whatever remedy he was supposed to take after defibrillation, but we can assume that as he’s not alone, there’s no further issue in administering it.
For greater “realism”, you could of course remove all of the manufactured peril and have Bond and company act as professionals who take precautions: you can in fact fire a defibrillator several times on the power available from a car battery; the real leads are far less flimsy; rather than waiting to the last moment, Vesper Lynd would have immediately followed Bond out of the room and brought him to the car, as she was tasked with keeping an eye on him; Bond himself would have gone straight to the car and medical kit, knowing that in the situation, some form of poisoning was the most likely cause of his sickness. But without that, you’ve got no tension and we’re into the realms of bad sci-fi, where we spend hour-long minutes of screen-time explaining things that everyone in the scene wouldn’t give a second thought about.
