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Next Labour Leader: Keir Starmer

Discussion in 'off topic' started by lordsummit, Apr 4, 2020.

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  1. lordsummit

    lordsummit Moderator

    Starmer and Rayner it is then
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  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    By a landslide: Starmer 56%, L-B 27%, Nandy 16%.

    PS Sky suggesting the left are about to lose quite a bit of influence in the NEC too. Maybe this can move the party towards a more electable future. Looks like the penny has finally dropped with the unions etc that this was a contest between potential political power and ideological purity in opposition. Good!
  3. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    At last some opposition, long road ahead though
  4. Richard Lines

    Richard Lines pfm Member

    Good Morning All,

    I'm far from sure about Rayner as deputy, too earnest by far and puts me on edge within milliseconds of starting to talk...........


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  5. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    If anyone says Finally the grownups are back in charge I am going to lose it.

    He’s going to have to disappoint someone and it will be interesting to see who it turns out to be. Given that the worst of the PLP have gone there’s no particular need to cosset the right, but ...
  6. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Thank God. Views are important but competence even more so. in my book, right person for the job and I hope he moves Nandy close and Long Johnson into something worthy but distant.
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  7. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    More neoliberalism - just what we need right now.
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  8. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    It is a real missed opportunity that Dr Rosin Allin-Khan didn’t get it IMO. She is a kind, articulate and highly knowledgeable front-line voice in this global pandemic. She’d also act as a token gesture to a now no doubt despondent extreme left. Whilst the ideological left have once again proven they render the party unelectable I think it makes far more sense for Labour to keep them in their box within the party than the outright purge that was necessary to get shut of the Hattons etc in the 1980s. It will be interesting to see how Starmer handles that one, if I was him I’d make Dr Allin-Khan shadow health secretary ASAP.

    PS I’ve locked the old leadership election thread as it was getting way too long and we now have a result!
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  9. Paul Mc

    Paul Mc pfm Member

  10. Thorn

    Thorn pfm Member

    It's good to see a lawyer in charge.
  11. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    We won't have to wait long before the witch hunt begins.
  12. Paul Mc

    Paul Mc pfm Member

    On another note, as a party member for most of the last 35 years, I don't know if Starmer is up to it, but he will drive out the Corbyn faction from any power and make Labour at least seem competent. On Corbyn, his domestic policies were not much different Miliband, but his International positions made me ashamed and of course his anti-Semitism disgraced us. Relieved.
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  13. Paul Mc

    Paul Mc pfm Member

    Hope so. Let's start with Ken Loach.
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  14. glancaster

    glancaster In the silicon vale

    Starmer has made a good start. In his victory statement, he already sounds more convincingly prime ministerial than the current incumbent.
  15. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    I hope so. The most undisciplined power obsessed group of leaders I’ve ever seen. They drove the party into the ground and if they don’t walk away in shame, they should be driven out.A shameful period that has blemished the party forever. And Corbyn above it all, a man over promoted and as arrogant as they come. He should have stayed in the shed of his allotment.
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  16. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    This is the sort of drivel we can expect from Starmer

    He said that Labour would “have the courage to support” the Tory government during the coronavirus crisis "in the national interest" “Not opposition for opposition’s sake”. “Not scoring party political points or making impossible demands.”
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  17. Paul Mc

    Paul Mc pfm Member

    That was the best part of his speech. Certainly better than Corbyn's, "We told you so" riff.
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  18. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    You better start praying now - they used to say 'there's two hopes in life, Bob Hope and no bl**dy hope, now Bob's dead...
  19. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    I think you’ll find Starmer will turn out to be an awful antisemite as soon as that becomes necessary.

    I’m glad though that people are finding ways to reconcile themselves with the left’s program, even if it requires this kind of memory holing.
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  20. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Politically he will have to tread carefully until he can shake the Corbynist s**t off the party’s shoes.I guarantee he knows what he is doing.
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