Tony L
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It changed around the point the LED changed from red to green. Pretty sure the one I had for a while had the later knob and green LED. Should have kept it!
Naim Nait 50
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It changed around the point the LED changed from red to green. Pretty sure the one I had for a while had the later knob and green LED. Should have kept it!
John
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Tony L
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I’ve heard that stated too! I’d be interested to know if there was any non-cosmetic change, i.e. a board revision, or whether it was just random audiophile groupthink bollocks. As an example the first Kans sounding better has some real logic to it as they were in effect a totally different speaker to later ones (proper LS3/5A ply cabs, Scanspeak tweeter etc). Curious if there is anything ‘real’ here.
PS Aesthetically I prefer the later knob, but the red LED!
PS Aesthetically I prefer the later knob, but the red LED!
Roog
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Its a well known fact that red ones go faster*
* When applied to Cars, motorcycles, bicycles, etc.
I've been looking for a Supernait second hand for my kitchen dinner system . Very glad I didn't jump !
As it stands my second system is Acoustic Energy Aegis Compacts in white . FYI there is a really good looking pair on e-bay right now for Buy it now £25 fantastic bargain .
And a Yamaha classic compact system .
Just put a deposit down on a Nait 50 which I'm going to match with a spare pair of Splendor S3 speakers and the tuner and CD player from the Yamaha Classic system . Can't wait .
What's not to like , no remote control volume , the only down side I can think of
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As it stands my second system is Acoustic Energy Aegis Compacts in white . FYI there is a really good looking pair on e-bay right now for Buy it now £25 fantastic bargain .
And a Yamaha classic compact system .
Just put a deposit down on a Nait 50 which I'm going to match with a spare pair of Splendor S3 speakers and the tuner and CD player from the Yamaha Classic system . Can't wait .
What's not to like , no remote control volume , the only down side I can think of
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Nye Samuel
Herr Katze
Nye Samuel
Herr Katze
Go for it!
Naim would never sell anything without providing a healthy profit to stack holders.
Usually manufacture cost are 1/10 - 1/20th (even more sometime) than retail sales price.
Cost structure involve dealer margin.
Cable lifters and snake oil likely present huge margins.
I know a dealer which is able to give 45-50% discount on certain brands.
Its a crazy world, but as long as people are willing to pay.
I know there are people that can repair it -- I just doubt it will be anyone at Naim. There have been many stories here on PFM about Musos and other all in ones type units that failed after warranty and Naim wouldn’t (couldn't?) repair them, even for payment. I’m guessing it will be the same for items like this unless they contract with a third party who can do this type of work.
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Would feel cheated shortly after warranty period being invoiced mega for such possible failure.
Virtually similar scenario as mk 1 Mu-So, fingers crossed my own keep steady, otherwise it full money lost.
Tony L
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I’d really not put those products in the same category. This is an amp, it has no ‘computer’ aspect to it at all, even the standby mode could be disabled by anyone with electronics down the line. I’m as ‘Right To Repair’ and ‘hi-fi as a long term investment’ as it gets and I’m not seeing anything in there that worries me at all. To be honest it should be bomb-proof. Just replace the handful of electrolytic caps every 20 years and chuck a bit of switch cleaner in the contacts and it should last pretty much forever. The standby mode is likely a plus too as it will prevent people doing the leave on 24/7 madness. Assuming the basic design is good and the components are well rated for their task I suspect it will last just as well as the originals have. It looks to have much better speaker terminals too (the original Naits popped off the board, I bought and sold a lot of Naits around ‘00 when the price was starting to rise fast and I had to resolder the speaker sockets on most of them!).
I’d be interested in what some of the better DIY folk than me think, but to my eyes it is fine. To put it another way of everything Naim make today that is the one thing I’d actually like myself. I’ve absolutely no use for it, but I’d like one!
garyi
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Its a shame that hifi in general seems to be selling to the few remaining geezers, this was an opportunity to attract in a younger audience, lets face it there is not 1300 quids of bits in there even allowing for R&D etc. Short termism is the name of the game now in everything it seems.
From what Ive learned about Linn pricing over the years, its the top models that have very good margin. The entry level stuff is much leaner and nothing like what you quoted. So I think it may vary quite a lot throughout the Naim product range.
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Not being funny, but how do you KNOW that? I work in R&D finance and governance and have done for over a decade and even I can't say that without seeing the records of the work the company have undertaken so unless you are a senior financial officer or R&D manager at Naim you have absolutely no idea. Sorry, if you think I am picking on you, but there's set of posters on here who continually trot out baseless nonsense re. Naim and their products (like perf's continued assertions that Naim are failing despite the accounts illustrating completely the opposite) without having much of a real clue as to what they are talking about. You seem to have joined them!
garyi
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Never the less, this was an opportunity to attract in fresh blood, instead its a super expensive item, naim arn't interested in new young folk coming in, they are interested selling to the diminishing few willing to spend such silly money on a such a basic amp. I haven't worked in R&D all my life and that's my assertion.
Direct material cost is likely lower, not more than £90-100.