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notaclue
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It is the Scott Ian. Singer is the Mike Patton. Drummer from the Slayer. Something of a supergroup.
The Captain
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Aha (he's aged well then crikey).. but called.. Mr.Bungle-? Ok they don't immediately think of Rainbow, Zippy George & Co but all the same, w t f.
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
The Captain
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notaclue
pfm Member
A lame crowd, for sure. They deserved much better. Though the very good sound quality makes me wonder if it was more of a gig to be recorded rather than a 'normal' gig.
Incidentally, I was watching this the other day and couldn't help but notice the excellent crowd interaction.
From a great YouTube channel with loads of live hardcore.
The Captain
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Really enjoyed that too notaclue- great hardcore. A good healthy moronic element to it, & what a cool freebie show!
Capt
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Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Struggling with that lot tbh.
Name like that, the word skinhead all over the place, artwork like this (including what used to be regarded as telltale white boot laces):
And although I haven’t seen overt racism during a quick look online, a sort of “WHY ARE YOU ASKING QUESTIONS, WOKEFLAKE?” theme to some responses from fans to those who express doubts on Reddit etc.
It’s not a genre I have much attachment to, so I could be missing something important (if so, please enlighten me). But from here they look dodgy AF.
Name like that, the word skinhead all over the place, artwork like this (including what used to be regarded as telltale white boot laces):
And although I haven’t seen overt racism during a quick look online, a sort of “WHY ARE YOU ASKING QUESTIONS, WOKEFLAKE?” theme to some responses from fans to those who express doubts on Reddit etc.
It’s not a genre I have much attachment to, so I could be missing something important (if so, please enlighten me). But from here they look dodgy AF.
notaclue
pfm Member
Struggling with that lot tbh.
Name like that, the word skinhead all over the place, artwork like this (including what used to be regarded as telltale white boot laces):
And although I haven’t seen overt racism during a quick look online, a sort of “WHY ARE YOU ASKING QUESTIONS, WOKEFLAKE?” theme to some responses from fans to those who express doubts on Reddit etc.
It’s not a genre I have much attachment to, so I could be missing something important (if so, please enlighten me). But from here they look dodgy AF.
There's no need to worry.
"People in the scene think they have some idea about what Conservative Military Image as a band stand for but none of them ever actually get to know them or listen to them. Adam elaborated on the songs meaning, “A lot of people see me and say, ‘Oh, you fit into this, this and this stereotype. Somehow we also get grouped with racist skinheads, or they’ll think, ‘Oh, you’re one of us’ and we ****ing are not. We hate them.” No Echo
And here's a fan with a CMI t-shirt...
The Captain
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@Dave H. I -think- you might be misinterpreting it. I could be wrong, & was innitially suspicious due to the skinhead thing + the germany footie shirt, but listening to the words I heard enough anti-white supremacy xyz to continue watching. Plus there's a dedicated black skinhead in the throng too.
Interesting to read notaclue's take on it though; I know little about the current hardcore scene, but do know over here the punk-hardcore scene was maybe somewhat 'hijacked' by the far right-? To what extent if so Iadmit not knowing though.
Capt
Interesting to read notaclue's take on it though; I know little about the current hardcore scene, but do know over here the punk-hardcore scene was maybe somewhat 'hijacked' by the far right-? To what extent if so Iadmit not knowing though.
Capt
paulfromcamden
Baffled
How did their drummer get the gig in a 'skinhead' band?!A lame crowd, for sure. They deserved much better. Though the very good sound quality makes me wonder if it was more of a gig to be recorded rather than a 'normal' gig.
Incidentally, I was watching this the other day and couldn't help but notice the excellent crowd interaction.
notaclue
pfm Member
In fact, none of the band are what you would call skinheads (looks to be more of a case of receding...) so I'm not sure why they have the skinhead thing going on. Perhaps it's a USP to get noticed.
US hardcore is not a scene with any reputation for racism, as far as I am aware of.
Unlike European black metal. Now that can be very dodgy https://thequietus.com/articles/333...ry-black-metal-red-politics-bill-peel-extract
Perhaps it's a USP to get noticed.
US hardcore is not a scene with any reputation for racism, as far as I am aware of.
Unlike European black metal. Now that can be very dodgy https://thequietus.com/articles/333...ry-black-metal-red-politics-bill-peel-extract
The Captain
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I wondered that! actually these locks gave me more confidence they -weren't- a whitey-skinhead band.
Seems to be a seriously good current hardcore scene in US to me.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
So far as I can tell they've a bit of an Oi fetish going on. Some of the original Oi scene was pretty dodgy but I don't think that's what's going on here.In fact, none of the band are what you would call skinheads (looks to be more of a case of receding...) so I'm not sure why they have the skinhead thing going on.
US hardcore is not a scene with any reputation for racism, as far as I am aware of.
There IS a white power skinhead scene in the US but it seems pretty distinct and isolated for the main hardcore scene.
The Captain
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Some? I'd say most of the Oi scene was dodgy.
But nevertheless I think you can still give a nod twds the music of it, without giving a nod to the abject politics of it: which is what I sense is going on with CMI.
But nevertheless I think you can still give a nod twds the music of it, without giving a nod to the abject politics of it: which is what I sense is going on with CMI.
Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
Not at the start. The racists joined in later.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
I'd agree with that. I took an evening class a few years back and one of the members of Booze & Glory was in the class. Lovely bloke - and hardly ever greeted you with a sieg heil (joke!!)