paulfromcamden
Baffled
Labour: not quite as crap as the Conservatives.
\o/ Go new slogan! \o/
This has been pretty much their entire campaign for the last few elections.
Labour: not quite as crap as the Conservatives.
\o/ Go new slogan! \o/
Labour: not quite as crap as the Conservatives.
\o/ Go new slogan! \o/
Local elections: Liberal.He was asking you about your voting choice not some abstract thoughts from someone else’s exit pole. Why so shy?
Another record benchmark for drug deaths in Scotland achieved by Nicola reported this week.Not in Scotland or where I live. Labour needs to learn to accommodate being a spent force in Scotland, and embrace the desire for national self determination in Scotland and Wales or face becoming increasingly irrelevant.
But a credible opposition would be well aware of this and have a strategy in hand, wouldn't they?
Carefully avoiding what it is you actually stand for* and makes you and Brian the strangest bedfellows on pfm. What it is it that unites you politically?General elections: Whichever party has best predicted odds to remove Labour. Over the years that has mainly been Liberal but recently Tories.
https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3417/election/397
It extreme because it’s nonsense. For one thing many people have tactically voted for other parties precisely to increase the odds against the Tories.What is extreme about the observation that most people on the forum complain about the Tories and yet refuse to support the only party that has any chance of even being a credible opposition.
You voted for Jeremy Corbyn then?I do.
Did you vote for Corbyn?Doesn't matter whether they're credible or not. It's the only option.
It extreme because it’s nonsense. For one thing many people have tactically voted for other parties precisely to increase the odds against the Tories.
But perhaps more pertinent is that it is those who have supported Brexit who are by far the biggest Tory enablers out there
Brexit is his greatest foreign policy achievement, far more durable than Trump. Putin made his former ambassador to London a member of the Order of Alexander Nevsky and president of his Diplomatic Academy in recognition.That would be Putin then.
When it’s relevant then yes. As you are one of only two people to have said that anyone who does not vote Labour is a Tory enabler, the question of where that opinion is coming from is relevant. If those people are using the accusation did not vote for Corbyn, they are hypocrites. If they support the Tories, they’re trolls.@ks.234 , do you always ask people who they vote for ?
Nothing extreme about that observation. It’s a running theme.What is extreme about the observation that most people on the forum complain about the Tories and yet refuse to support the only party that has any chance of even being a credible opposition.
I think you may be spot on.I think a lot of people on here do quite well under a Tory government so affectation of Labour ineptitude serves their purpose.
I do vote Labour even if it is against my own interest.
Common sense, decency and a lack of hypocrisy are right up there. People don’t have to agree on everything to get along ok and not behave like an arse.Carefully avoiding what it is you actually stand for* and makes you and Brian the strangest bedfellows on pfm. What it is it that unites you politically?
*though six years of UKIP leafleting, YouTube videos and calls for Farage to receive a knighthood might be seen as overkill.
Bold...I agree.It extreme because it’s nonsense. For one thing many people have tactically voted for other parties precisely to increase the odds against the Tories.
But perhaps more pertinent is that it is those who have supported Brexit who are by far the biggest Tory enablers out there
Common sense, decency and a lack of hypocrisy are right up there. People don’t have to agree on everything to get along ok and not behave like an arse.
Then you certainly accept it when people choose to not answer you. Unless you think they owe you something ?When it’s relevant then yes.
It is never relevant. How people vote is a private matter. Someone may choose to say how they voted but it is entirely their choice and you should respect that.When it’s relevant then yes. As you are one of only two people to have said that anyone who does not vote Labour is a Tory enabler, the question of where that opinion is coming from is relevant. If those people are using the accusation did not vote for Corbyn, they are hypocrites. If they support the Tories, they’re trolls.
As you have decided to express your opinion, the question of whether you are a troll, a hypocrite, or a genuine Labour voter is very relevant.
+1.mostly because people were sick to death of hearing about a referendum in 2016 and the stagnation in the country caused from that moment, much of it actually caused by hard remainers trying to overturn the result, even rejecting all chances of a soft brexit.
I was replying to another member who was casting ‘fault’ in the wrong direction. If you don’t like the truth take it up with him for raising the point.It’s always someone else’s fault. You won’t get a Labour government without actually voting for one- you can’t expect everyone else to do the work for you Brian.
Did you vote for Corbyn?
Brian, I’m questioning your claims of , how did you describe it, ‘common sense, decency and a lack of hypocrisy’. Attacking others for something- not voting for the political party you yourself say you hardly ever vote for or more amusingly, eating a lot of greasy food while suggesting others do, looks rather like hypocrisy.I was replying to another member who was casting ‘fault’ in the wrong direction. If you don’t like the truth take it up with him for raising the point.