doctorf
left footed right winger
I like your short, snappy responses Sean.
Far easier for the alt right, evil Tories and EDL to understand.
Labour Leader: Keir Starmer IV
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Far easier for the alt right, evil Tories and EDL to understand.
russel
./_dazed_and_confused
It’s also worth the price of popcorn to watch right wingers who are usually pretty damn insensitive to racial comments, Boris….., suddenly become so sensitive, it’s quite remarkable.
ks.234
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Hardly tenuous considering the scale of the protest, but anyway, it wasn’t a police action. According to Reuters it was British Immigration Officials who detained the two men on ‘suspicion’ and Scottish police who later released them, so however you look at it, the action by the Home Office was unnecessary and provocative.
On another issue I have to ask about is your ‘dickhead trade unionist’ comment. As someone who was a trade union activist until quite recently, does my past activity also make me a dickhead?
doctorf
left footed right winger
Thanks for that.
With regard to my dickhead comment, you couldn’t be more wrong. Had I have called Chris Witty a dickhead, I wouldn’t have been referring to all doctors as dickheads!
ks.234
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But if Witty had made a dickhead comment, it would be the comment, not his profession that was at fault. If you say ‘Witty’s comment was dickheadish’, that is saying something specific to the comment and the individual. If I say ‘Witty’s comment was typical of dickhead doctors’ that is also saying something about my opinion of doctors in general?
doctorf
left footed right winger
I suppose it depends which side of bed you’ve got out of, and whether you easily take offence. I was a member of a trade union, as was my wife. They’re not my favourite organisations and trade unionists in general are not on my wavelength, but I’m sure there are some good ones around. Bit like doctors really.
ks.234
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Thank you for clarifying. Sensitivity is certainly part of the problem, but then I’d have a small bet that I’ve received more dickhead comments for being a trade unionist than any doctor has for being a doctor. I’ve also received comments for being a total dickhead, but that’s different
lordsummit
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The fact remains that man going for high position within politics who is also on the opposition’s organising committee didn’t pause to think before posting something whiffy on Twitter. I’d therefore question that persons suitability for high office, and quite rightly back the Labour Party for saying ‘oi, post whiffy stuff on social media we’ll suspend you, we don’t want our officials doing that stuff’. Seriously are these people so stupid as to not read back and consider what they have written before posting?
Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
Unless you are well-trained, well-rehearsed, managed and media-savvy, you will drop a b*llock in the public arena. What matters is not whether he should have thought that his tweet has echoes of NF's "***s go home" (god knows it's difficult to keep up with changes to language and semantics that seems to occurs daily) but what he does now. If he has apologized for an honest mistake, he should be censured for that but not lose his position over it.
That means people have to be a bit more forgiving than they seem to be (and accept we all make mistakes). And if we do, we should extend the same tolerance to people of all political persuasions *if* they make a genuine mistake.
That means people have to be a bit more forgiving than they seem to be (and accept we all make mistakes). And if we do, we should extend the same tolerance to people of all political persuasions *if* they make a genuine mistake.
Enfield boy
pfm Member
Agreed, it was a crass error, probably done in a hothead moment without consideration.
Have you forgotten Boris' "watermelon smiles," "piccaninnies," "letter boxes," "tank-top bum boys?" Let alone the institutional racism within his party. His stupidity is ignored, forgiven or encouraged by the media. Hell, it's an electoral advantage for the evil sods and tories everywhere, including here don't give a damn.
Seanm
pfm Member
Well, ultimately not a hill I can be bothered dying on - guy should have read it back to himself a couple of times. But again, if the consequences for anyone left of Blair of saying something whiffy is expulsion from public life, and the consequences for the right of pursuing actual racist policies and saying deliberately racist things is zero, then change is going to be a long time coming.
Anyway, onwards and upwards: Starmer’s online rally today attracted more than 50 (fifty) people, and yielded some catchy slogans:
https://twitter.com/poltheoryother/status/1393893965041131522?s=21
Anyway, onwards and upwards: Starmer’s online rally today attracted more than 50 (fifty) people, and yielded some catchy slogans:
https://twitter.com/poltheoryother/status/1393893965041131522?s=21
Minio
Kind of Sort of Not really...
I did feel sorry for, potential Labour Leader, Lisa Nandy on Question Time. The opening question "what is the point of the Labour Party" met with a "remember how the NHS and the welfare state started" .
Not many people have memories that long or, were even around then.
Unfortunately.
Not many people have memories that long or, were even around then.
Unfortunately.
Enfield boy
pfm Member
Perhaps, but they'll be familiar with Tories trying to destroy it ever since, NHS safe with use my arse!
Nigel
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Seanm
pfm Member
Well, what’s happened since 2011 is interesting; also what’s happened to the life expectancy of the least deprived as opposed to the most.
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/whats-happening-life-expectancy-england
Life expectancy is a big ship to turn around, but we’re getting there!
More to it than just running down the NHS of course. There are other ways to cull the poor.
ks.234
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