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Labour at it again ..... anti-semitic just won't go away !

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Hyde Lea.. optimistically described as a 'village' in Wiki, is a strip of land just outside Stafford. It comprises two streets.. a school ( closed) 451 persons and a couple of dogs.

There is nothing there.. which makes two Hyde Lea's with nothing to offer.
 
I wondered when dairylea was going to show up. He must still be bitter about the two Momentum members who beat him at arm-wrestling.
 
Arkless Electronics said:
It's kinda like Labour are being asked from all sides "when did you stop beating your wife" and instead of doing the right thing by just telling the accusers "we know your game now **** off" they are pathetically engaging themselves in self destructive defence of a "crime" that never happened.... Which is of course exactly what Labours enemies are trying to achieve!

What confuses and annoys me is that they seem completely unwilling to just destroy and diffuse the argument of their accusers by saying "yes we are anti Israel and pro Palestinian and proudly so. It's not a secret and never has been and if you are a supporter of an Israeli Trumpto(w)n then Labour is not the party for you"
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Spot on! Corbyn needs to stop dancing to their tune and just come out and tell people what's going on; which is that the Israel lobby, Israel-friendly donors to the Labour Party, Israeli shills within it and a willing media are trying to stop him becoming PM due to his support for the Palestinian people, so long brutalised by the apartheid state of Israel.

Anyone with a brain sees this anyway, so he's got nothing to lose.

There should be an investigation into collusion between some members of the Labour Party and this foreign state in a bid to destroy the career of the leader of the opposition, too.
 
Yes, I agree entirely with the above (and Arkless); it seems that the labour party are on a self-destruct mission at the moment.
 
HydeLea said:
Blimey it's like a Momentum branch meeting ....... calm down comrades and keep the red flag flying here !

I appeal to all commies and Marxists within Momentum to please keep up the good work and make Labour truly unelectable :)
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Your posts give the appearance of being written by someone with the cognitive abilities of packet of pork scratchings. They’re also very funny, so I’d encourage you to offer more of your wisdom.
 
I just checked the Interweb and I see that Momentum is at it again, this time arguing that Angular Momentum is what makes the world go around!

Everyone knows it's money that makes the world go round, but the loony left would have you believe it has something to do with the conversation of angular momentum. Don't take my word for it. Click the link!

Joe
 
HydeLea said:
Blimey it's like a Momentum branch meeting ....... calm down comrades and keep the red flag flying here !

I appeal to all commies and Marxists within Momentum to please keep up the good work and make Labour truly unelectable :)
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Lest ye forget...

"Just read that the left bully boys are holding an event in Stafford, my home town. Just emailed my local council raising objections to such a nasty, fascist, bullying and anti-semitic organisation is being given permission to gather here .....

I'll post the reply if and when it arrives !"

Now you're quite, quite sure you've got the correct Momentum this time?

https://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/momentum-in-stafford-28th-july.210876/
 
TheDecameron said:
Your posts give the appearance of being written by someone with the cognitive abilities of packet of pork scratchings. They’re also very funny, so I’d encourage you to offer more of your wisdom.
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I think we're being a little hard on Dairylea.

He's clearly a man who is deeply troubled by social injustice and racism in all its manifestations, whether it be directed toward Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Sikhs. I understand he once risked life and limb to physically confront a couple of Momentum thugs who were looking at him funny.

And, like the proverbial canary in the mine, he finds time in his busy schedule to sound the alarm when bigotry and intolerance is on the rise in the UK.

We should thank him from the bottom of our hearts, not mock him.
 
droodzilla said:
I think we're being a little hard on Dairylea.

He's clearly a man who is deeply troubled by social injustice and racism in all its manifestations, whether it be directed toward Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Sikhs. I understand he once risked life and limb to physically confront a couple of Momentum thugs who were looking at him funny.

And, like the proverbial canary in the mine, he finds time in his busy schedule to sound the alarm when bigotry and intolerance is on the rise in the UK.

We should thank him from the bottom of our hearts, not mock him.
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Can we thank him and mock him?
If not, I'm quite content to just mock.
 
Seanm said:
There is still a problem with antisemitism in the Labour Party, it still isn't systemic, it's still being instrumentalised by the right, Labour are still making bad moves that allow it to be instrumentalised. The IHRA thing was actually an attempt to make progress (there is a genuine need to provide a framework for different voices here) but accusations of bad faith on all sides, some of them deserved, have made it another media spectacle and factional ****-show. It's tragic because especially given the rise of the far right there is a real need to straighten this out and it could actually be something that progressive voices from different traditions unite around.
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Sean, do you have any particular (recent) examples of this in mind? Just curious.

I too believe this is an important issue, especially given the rise of the far-right.

And it's an issue that's poorly served by the BBC's default "he said, she said" mode of reporting.
 
droodzilla said:
Sean, do you have any particular (recent) examples of this in mind? Just curious.

I too believe this is an important issue, especially given the rise of the far-right.

And it's an issue that's poorly served by the BBC's default "he said, she said" mode of reporting.
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This Willsman business: even viewed sympathetically, what is someone on the NEC doing ranting like that? Or to put it differently, what is a ranter doing on the NEC? And why wasn't he called out there and then?

And then the IHRA: I think Labour are right to adopt the definition but not the examples, for lots of reasons, but it's my understanding - might be wrong on this - that they didn't consult with Jewish groups. That seems wrong to me.
 
Seanm said:
This Willsman business: even viewed sympathetically, what is someone on the NEC doing ranting like that? Or to put it differently, what is a ranter doing on the NEC? And why wasn't he called out there and then?

And then the IHRA: I think Labour are right to adopt the definition but not the examples, for lots of reasons, but it's my understanding - might be wrong on this - that they didn't consult with Jewish groups. That seems wrong to me.
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I back Willsmen 100%. He said nothing other than what many/most Labour supporters and in fact the Labour leadership themselves strongly believe anyway. Those with a problem with it shouldn't be in Labour IMHO. A cabal of Tory lite Nu Labour types with Israeli sympathies are trying to destroy their own party rather than see it go back to true Labour ideals of socialism and "for the many not the few" and need deselecting.
 
vuk said:
it is perhaps an important topic, but not an impottant issue given that it has been largely fabricated out of almost nothing.
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It, along with a dumb gammon Brexit policy, is why Labour can’t get properly ahead of a truly horrendous Conservative/DUP coalition. Make no mistake this is a disaster for Labour statistically, and the more extreme Israel-hating supporters like Jez, MaxFlinn etc etc dig-in and do their thing the further the party will drop down in the polls. This behaviour is toxic and the whole thing needs knocking on the head with some real force.

Speaking as someone who at present wants to see a progressive coalition, not a Labour win, I find it all rather interesting from a detached viewpoint, but I suspect Labour are handling it so badly the Tories may well push ahead again despite the hopeless mess they are making of every aspect of government.

At its core the issue is but semantics, but it is being handled so spectacularly incompetently by the party that it has been allowed to remain a major news item for over two years since now. It takes some remarkably poor leadership decisions to achieve that!

PS Willsman is a total arse/gobshite who should be nowhere near any party. He needs sacking immediately.
 
I have to be honest, accusing some Jewish people of being Trump supporters is possibly not the worst one can do. Whether one or more of the NEC members at the meeting (or even the leader of the Labour Party who was present) should have pulled him up on it, well, if there was even an iota of media savvy present in that meeting, they should have shut him up for fear he was going to go too far and make an even bigger opportunity for a press who really need no opportunity to make mileage out of this issue.

And listening to a clip of Willsman, he really did no favours to himself or his party by sounding like a rabid Dave Spart caricature - a media gift.
 
Joe P said:
I just checked the Interweb and I see that Momentum is at it again, this time arguing that Angular Momentum is what makes the world go around!

Everyone knows it's money that makes the world go round, but the loony left would have you believe it has something to do with the conversation of angular momentum. Don't take my word for it. Click the link!

Joe
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Are you trying to take the thread off at a tangent?
 
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