Snufkin
pfm Member
The tories hate the public sector and that’s always where the battle lines are drawn.
The Tories hate the public and I am hoping that is where the battle lines will be drawn.
The tories hate the public sector and that’s always where the battle lines are drawn.
On the question of impact elsewhere, we should also take into account the impact elsewhere of having people sick and unable to obtain timely or effective treatment. Not only the human misery, but the effect on the economy due to lost employment, increased sickness, and so-on.Good Morning All,
As a matter of interest what do people on the forum think/ believe would be an appropriate pay rise at this time for people in the NHS?
Bearing in mind the impact this would have elsewhere........
have refused to give civil servants 3.5% and have offered 3%
The wage floor can be government policy. They simply set it where they want it in the direct public sector and it becomes the floor no-one can go below if they are to attract applications. A note here: it requires reversing the idea of fiscal contraction, otherwise the private sector becomes cash-strapped and contracts, though govt can take up that problem by becoming the employer of last resort.Well say they were given an inflation matching rise of 9.4% this would set the bar for all other pay settlements or at least an expectation?
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Richard
Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for all they do, but I'm unconvinced that the employees of Timpsons merit the massive show of public support they attract.
The very sleight-of-hand is these 'efficiency savings'. It's fake and a complete analogue of the 'assume debt to pay for' fairytale. The very psychological aspect is: 'dear public, do you want more economic contraction so that the public sector can have a pay rise?'. It's politicking with lies.Nope. It's 2% plus 1% if the department can prove savings / efficiencies (see post above). This is on top of the 'efficiency' of reducing the CS by 20% by 2025.
And before we start all the "Whitehall desk polisher" bo**ocks, these cuts will also affect the frontline workers at passport office, DVLA, DWP, Borders agency etc...
And this illustrates perfectly the skewed view in operation. That the cash-limited private sector can somehow afford to pay higher wages, whereas those paid by the currency-issuing government have to count pennies. Utter folly. As if those paid from the private sector somehow spend their money in a different economy and get taxed by a different government.Where I work, at a secondary school, we have just lost 21 staff apparently, 13 teachers & 8 support staff. Most of the support staff have gone on to far better paying jobs & a few teachers have retired but most have quit teaching in the public sector to go into the private sector. I myself am on poor pay for what I am expected to do but the convenience of where I work keeps me here for the time being. I have heard bandied about this morning 9.3% pay rise, believe that when I see it in my pay packet.
Worth noting that professions like teaching have a pay scale whereby you move up each year. This doesn’t always happen in the private sector.
Worth noting that professions like teaching have a pay scale whereby you move up each year. This doesn’t always happen in the private sector.
Teachers have lost ~14% over the past 10yrs ,My situation as started here, job advert stated a 5 yr pay scale, start at £19,678, after 5 yrs end with £20,496. We have had an increase recently but that was back pay for a forgotten implementation on pay awarded last year. If I had a mortgage & children to support I would not be here for sure.
Teachers have lost ~14% over the past 10yrs ,
MP's gained ~24%.
Fair enough, I only have knowledge of teaching really, my other half has been teacher/deputy/head for 30 years. Her pays pretty good but she earns itIt's also worth noting that in many public sector areas, pay progression has never been officially stopped, but has not been implemented for a long time.
For a start the government would need to pay for it. As a school we are now supposed to meet a 5% plus teacher pay rise out of a 1.9% funding increase, and then something for support staff if we ever find out what we are getting paid from April onwards.What impact would it have elsewhere?