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I do wonder, if people who think this way, had their wife & young children killed by such an individual, would show such apathy to the situation.
You've just justified terrorism. Well done.
I do wonder, if people who think this way, had their wife & young children killed by such an individual, would show such apathy to the situation.
Please go on as your post shows you have thoughts your not posting here.You've just justified terrorism. Well done.
Proselytizing has played an equal role in the history of both Christianity and Islam. There is never a good time for your line of argument. Now is a really bad time.
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How can they be allowed back if it's known they've been fighting in Syria?
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How can they be allowed back if it's known they've been fighting in Syria?
Why not be honest to everyone here & say what you really think on the issue of terrorism in this country & it's cause.
The laws need changing, obviously, if not, they have free reign to wreak havoc whenever they feel the need.
I would prefer you elaborate your thoughts on this issue I know Corbyn's stance where terrorism is concerned., I feel your being evasive in your posts, you seem to be suggesting something without saying exactly what this is.Just read the thoughts of Jeremy Corbyn and many strategic and defence experts.
Your own post clearly shows that you can at least empathise with terrorists.
You can't at present but once they leave the country with a trip to Syria, as many do, as the Manchester bomber did, why allow him back when he is a known threat to the country.You're missing the point. How will you stop the home-grown lone wolf?
At the moment, if they haven't committed a crime in the UK, then we have no power to prevent entry or even stop them.
With current manpower levels in the security services, there is no way to physically follow people. It's all done with very clever software. And for that reason these people use mobiles and the internet very rarely for communications. They don't even talk to each other when they meet to discuss, it's all done in writing on pieces of paper passed from person to person.
Yes, we could try to prevent entry at all ports, but hey, we can't even stop thousands of illegals as it is.
You can't at present but once they leave the country with a trip to Syria, as many do, as the Manchester bomber did, why allow him back when he is a known threat to the country.
Originally Posted by Ragaman View Post
You can't at present but once they leave the country with a trip to Syria, as many do, as the Manchester bomber did, why allow him back when he is a known threat to the country.
That's fair enough, but when the chance arises, as with any crime prevention scheme, we should be allowed to act, it may prevent many deaths by just stopping one individual, as in Manchester.No, the Isis plan has changed. Since the Russian onslaught and the continued allied attacks, there's very little movement from Britain to Syria. The recruitment drive for that has almost stopped. As I posted early on in this thread, Isis now persuades losers to carry out attacks with large vehicles and blades in their own country.
That's fair enough, but when the chance arises, as with any crime prevention scheme, we should be allowed to act, it may prevent many deaths by just stopping one individual, as in Manchester.
If the Manchester bomber had been prevented from entering after his trip to Syria, 22 people would be alive, many children, their future is gone, not to disease, not to a tragic car crash but after a planned attack. we can't prevent such accidents, we can prevent terrorist attacks so why make it just another statistic if it can be prevented.
That's fair enough, but when the chance arises, as with any crime prevention scheme, we should be allowed to act, it may prevent many deaths by just stopping one individual, as in Manchester.
If the Manchester bomber had been prevented from entering after his trip to Syria, 22 people would be alive, many children, their future is gone, not to disease, not to a tragic car crash but after a planned attack. we can't prevent such accidents, we can prevent terrorist attacks so why make it just another statistic if it can be prevented.
Some here claim it's no different to the many deaths each day from accidents, it is different, it can be stopped.
That's a gross misrepresentation of what I wrote, and you either know that and are just twisting my words for your own purposes, or you don't understand my point in which case it is pointless my arguing it with you further.