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Incident in london

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Philim, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    Terrible as there's so many pointless stabbings at the moment but thank goodness this isn't an expanding incident.
     
  2. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

    Louise Mensch has lost her mind. She's now blaming Putin for the London attacks:

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  3. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

    Home Office may not publish terrorist funding report amid claims it focuses on Saudi Arabia

     
  4. rough edges

    rough edges Sapere Aude

    That bitch lost her mind a long time ago. She's got a real "hate Putin" jones goin' there. Makes sense when you consider her husband's ethnicity, and the Oded Yinon plan.

    Just keep on selling weapons to the House of Saud, kissing Zionist ass, and sticking your nose where it don't belong, and this kind of crap will continue. It's called blowback, plain and simple.

    BB
     
  5. Wilson

    Wilson SCTV half wit

    'cept the part where it doesn't appear on her twitter page...

    Someone appears to have created that image. Max, how are your photoshop / gimp skills?
     
  6. Wilson

    Wilson SCTV half wit

    6 dead after this "non terrorist" incident.

    Condolences.
     
  7. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    ISIS want TM to win as she is their best recruiter from the ignorant and easily misled. Under "PREVENT" she has banned many foreign religious teachers as extremist, who are nothing of the sort. Like most Muslims I go to prayers every night during Ramadhan, where the Quran is recited over the month. One of the banned teachers was explaining a couple of nights ago how that section of the Quran stated that it was our duty to offer information about the religion to our non Muslim staff, but to leave them in peace and respect their rights if they chose to reject it. The emphasis on non compulsion and peaceful coexistence is something that the ISIS inspired nutters don't understand
     
  8. This is basically the problem, why do you think anyone wants to be 'informed' do you not think people can make there own decisions? especially when it comes to something as sycophant and imaginary as religion...
     
  9. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    I think it is quite logical to "offer" information to non-Muslims working in a mosque. Don't see the problem.
     
  10. Doesn't say 'in the mosque' to me it reads as if in the school or anywhere actually.... preaching, on a soap box in other words..
     
  11. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Just by the way, last night about 1,000 people were injured, three very seriously, in Turin. A huge crowd was watching a football match on a big screen in a piazza, when a firecracker went off causing mass panic and everyone rushing to escape from a perceived attack.

    This is what terrorism does. People no longer think "Ah, some fool has let off a firecracker," but "Bombs are going off."
     
  12. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Well this, too, is natural. If you believe in "one true faith" it is natural that you try to make others see the light. Christians do the same, in fact in the Middle Ages it was thought better to be burnt alive than not to see the light, especially between different sub-species of Christians.
    Evidently some Muslims today are in "Medieval mode," but I see no reason why the presumably peaceful and tolerant others should not talk about Islam to anyone who is interested in understanding the religion and related culture/cultures. You don't have to believe in a god to be interested in religions.
     
  13. Sorry but that's bollox.
     
  14. That would involve a discussion, not preaching too, or informing everyone around them that Islam is the correct path and all others should be abandoned.
     
  15. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Cereal Killer, I advise getting offline until you calm down.
     
  16. I'm totally calm. this isn't just an Islamic thing, it's the same in any religion where sects try preaching or 'feel duty bound' to inform everyone around them that their belief is better than all the others, and people who do not follow that same path 'need to see the light'. It's the most basic form of dictatorship imaginable...
     
  17. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Yes, I see your point, Cereal Killer. You are equating "Absolute belief" with "intollerance," which in some contexts is absolutely true, in my pinion. But then it would be the same with political systems (Marxist religion!?) economic systems, social systems, even tastes in architecture or music. Surely we must be allowed to discuss things.
    Various religions are at the core, or the roots, of who and what we are today, even if we are atheists. You can't just wipe them off the blackboard of human evolution.
     
  18. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

    It is on her Twitter page. i just checked. There are lots of other Tweets of hers too retweeting others that blamed Putin.
     
  19. avole

    avole The wise never post on Internet forums

    Read the post again. It seems quite clearly to be a mosque given the context. Paul has it right.
     
  20. I see you point and a discussion involves two voluntary minds..

    This post doesn't say that:
    This is 'telling' others and 'preaching' a true path to those who don't want to know or even have their own belief systems in place already...
     

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