murray johnson
pfm Member
joel said:In Japan at least you are expected to not only buy the product, but buy into the brand and the philosophy...
Perish the thought that that would ever happen here!
joel said:In Japan at least you are expected to not only buy the product, but buy into the brand and the philosophy...
YL drivers seem reasonably plentiful, although they ususally look like they've lived a life... I suspect spare parts availablity is not too bad for this brand (although maybe price is...). Don't think I've ever spotted a maxonic driver for sale, so heaven only knows what would happen when something goes wrong. OTOH, doesn't Shindo use field coils in his speakers? Someone still seems to be making this kind of driver.murray johnson said:I wasn't suggesting buying any of the exotic items as new. Too expensive!YL, Onken & Maxonic are all defunct companies and you'd need to ensure a supply of diaphragms before buying (as I thought I had with those Fostex's!)
Ooh you bitch. But I know that what you're really after is the pron. So here it is, the Onken 5000T in intimate close-up:Markus Sauer said:Careful. You're hyperventilating.
joel said:Ooh you bitch. But I know that what you're really after is the pron. So here it is, the Onken 5000T in intimate close-up: Satisfied?
At JPY250K and 200K respectively, they have a high ulp factor.murray johnson said:I see EIFL have 5000T's (and 455's) in at the moment. ulp!
I've seen your comments about the phenolic EV HF driver in your system and also the xover slopes you use. The T350 is not an expensive piece to find, and replacement diaphragms seem to be available.Romy The Cat said:Still, I feel that none-metallic diaphragms is a direction to do or if you go metal then it should be copper cones. Try listening to none-metallic or copper and you will see that they are very different.
Hm it is where my problems with most of audio people lie: they think is term of the products ability to deliver own things instead of the products capacity to accomplish the user objectives. I think that it is unnecessary to listen many HF drivers without a clear visualization of what need to be done by a tweeter, or by the specific conceptual tweeter in context of the given installation. I really do not feel comfortable when people go to my room, listen something, find that they like it and then run to buy the same component or a solution. It NEVER worked for them because a playback, represents not juts a summation of audio elements but a composite view on how sound might be reproduced. I do not think that juts because my or somebody else was positively mentioned EV-T350 then people should buy it. It is very possible that you will be disappointed. It rather you own joinery to observe how HF sounds in playback systems and how they sound live. There is not such a think as the driver that sounds best but only the drivers that fulfill you own demand for sound architecturing.joel said:I've seen your comments about the phenolic EV HF driver in your system and also the xover slopes you use. The T350 is not an expensive piece to find, and replacement diaphragms seem to be available.
My modest system is very different to yours and I will pick the driver that sounds best and (hopfeully) integrates easily with what I have.
Price and practicality are factors.
BTW, What drivers use copper diaphragms?
Hello Romy,Romy The Cat said:Hm… it is where my problems with most of audio people lie: they think is term of the products ability to deliver own things instead of the product’s capacity to accomplish the user objectives.