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What do you think they did?
Hifi News Review of Naim Statement
- Thread starter John Channing
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What do you think they did?
suzywong
Wot, no electrons?
Any time you go to a component supplier and ask for any change, modification or "bespoke" parameter from what is his "standard product" based on his pared-down-to-the-bone cost, there will be an additional price to pay. MIL standard, Spaceflight standard, matched pairs, additional inspections, screening or testing, your own company logo, no logo at all (cf BMW cars with no badges on the rear!). Any requested change results in additional work (hence costs) for the supplier, and he will want to recoup those costs. And the markup is often considerable, your five pence resistor from Maplins could well end up being ten quid in space qualified standard.
davidsrsb
pfm Member
In my experience custom selection power transistors are not that much more expensive than commodity parts. Manufacturers make many parts from the same die just by testing to different limits. So long as yield is ok, price premium is not that much. The big advantage to Naim is locking down the servicing business.
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Guest432
Guest
Bloody hell a £400,000 amp and they got a school kid to do their website
http://www.ultrasound-hifi.com/Us_wh_1/main_frame_en.html
http://www.ultrasound-hifi.com/Us_wh_1/main_frame_en.html
Joe Hutch
Mate of the bloke
Last updated in 2000, and looks it!
Shuggie
Trade: Ammonite Audio
Exactly what Naim say they did - design the transistors in-house from scratch.
suzywong
Wot, no electrons?
Not sure they would have designed the silicon, but they would have certainly written the specification against which they procured the devices. Do you know who they get them from?
suzywong
Wot, no electrons?
As a "purchaser," would one prefer them to spend company money on a fancy website, or in the electronics in one's living room?
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Guest432
Guest
One would prefer a bit of professionalism and pride in their product. A shoddy amateurish website says to me they have no interest in informing prospective customers of their products.
If they spend so little effort on their customer interaction what is to say their designs aren't as poor.
merlin
Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.
Just IME, the really clever people in this industry tend to be mavericks and somewhat unconventional.
Unless they are lucky enough to tie up with a commercially savvy businessman they are likely to fall by the wayside because the presentation is not what some high end buyers demand.
The truth often is that their products are remarkable - it's just that everything else is lacking.
At the other extreme we have companies trading on past achievements by using slick 21st century presentation and marketing skills.
Unless they are lucky enough to tie up with a commercially savvy businessman they are likely to fall by the wayside because the presentation is not what some high end buyers demand.
The truth often is that their products are remarkable - it's just that everything else is lacking.
At the other extreme we have companies trading on past achievements by using slick 21st century presentation and marketing skills.
Both are VW now.......so are they racing Beetles? There is, hopefully, always more than one way to win a race.
S-Man
StrivingON
I know where the old ones came from and who fabbed the silicon. I assume the new ones come from the same backend (since they are very flexible for low volume stuff), but I'm wondering if the new ones are FETs - they are described as "N" and "P". Of course it could be just the 'highly technical' journos' way of describing BJTs.
I love the way they describe the completely standard "copper heatspreader" and "non resonant epoxy shell" that every TO220/247 etc, has as something unique. I suppose it is if you've been stuck in TO3-land for 40 years.
Jo Sharp
Pulls on doors marked push
Peter Walker, I think - a straight wire with gain
Why does a CT scanner have to be so complicated? The more complicated they become, and the more electronic circuits are put in, the better the resolution. The KISS principle is wrong.