Are you concerned for their future or gloating about their imminent demise?
Brexit: give me a positive effect... III
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Colin Barron
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Nothing to gloat about, their future is our future as trading partners; hopefully they will bin off the Federal aspirations before they lose more members that make a net contribution.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Check the thread title. You don’t live in the EU or the U.S for that matter. Where do you think this is going to get us?-
eternumviti
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Couldn't you just give us the benefit of your opinion, rather than faffing around with all these definitives?
Interesting that you should put it like that. Virtually the entire cont. remain case revolves around the narrow financials.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Do we pay for the non narrow benefit of living in a civilised country with shirt buttons? Before deciding that the 'narrow financials' are somehow irrelevent, it might pay to have a look at what that costs. Obviously this isn't a concern for those driving Brexit but others might begin to notice. Never mind, plenty of cover now.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
As this thead's title doesn't seem to be delivering anything by way of benefits to the UK, let's see how the Remainer scaremongering is doing...
Border down the Irish sea? Tick.
Labour shortages for UK food production? Tick.
Lowering of food standards to accommodate desperate pleas to US for trade? Tick.
Nissan's Sunderland plant will have no future without free access to SM? Tick.
Blue Passports - because that's all you're worth*
*apologies to L’Oreal Paris.
Border down the Irish sea? Tick.
Labour shortages for UK food production? Tick.
Lowering of food standards to accommodate desperate pleas to US for trade? Tick.
Nissan's Sunderland plant will have no future without free access to SM? Tick.
Blue Passports - because that's all you're worth*
*apologies to L’Oreal Paris.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Colin Barron
pfm Member
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
More old news Col, lame. But the answer to "what price" is to ask all those who were told there wouldn't be any price.
That was called project fear by leavers not that long ago, I wonder if it's been rebranded?
Nick_G
pfm Member
Couldn't you just give us the benefit of your opinion, rather than faffing around with all these definitives?
Interesting that you should put it like that. Virtually the entire cont. remain case revolves around the narrow financials.
No it's also about our integrity and how the rest of the world sees us. The appalling way the government has conducted Brexit will have tarnished the UK's reputation badly. Since then the government have also handled the COVID-19 pandemic even more incompetently than I think many of us could have imagined, leaving us with the highest death rate in Europe.
I think quite a few countries think we (like the US) are turning into a basket case.
Colin Barron
pfm Member
The people in Sedgefield and Blyth who voted Tory for the first time in living memory would have had little doubt of the price to pay; they had been fed a Remainer diet for several years.
i.j.russell
pfm Member
What about freedom of movement, security co-operation, easy access to skilled and unskilled labour, the age demographic/birthrate and not being seen as a complete laughing stock by the rest of the world?
Completely forgot food standards, workers' rights and environmental standards.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Now you are just being silly, those nice Messrs Farage, Johnson and Gove told them that they shouldn't believe the experts. It's not like them to lie, oh wait they even do it during a pandemic. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me still, shame on me.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
He'll tell you that the UK's were all high anyway, even as Boris is busy indicating the obvious.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Let’s see what they say in Jan/Feb next year once they’ve experienced ‘Australia Style Brexit’.
eternumviti
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Who said the narrow financials were irrelevant? All I said was that the remain case revolves mainly around them.
Freedom of movement (and the establishment) = the freedom of the establishment (companies) to move production to where the labour is cheapest. Which flies in the face of 'workers' rights' (said workers being banned from taking industrial action to object by ECJ). The EU will always put capital (and the project) ahead of the people. The project has shown its teeth in Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal. The workers pay, by not having any work. Unemployment does not accord with workers' rights, or perhaps people simply no longer have rights once they are no longer workers. Capital ahead of people. Security co-operation does not require the EU, it requires co-operation. Access to labour remains in the gift of government. The age/demographic birthrate? Laughing stock?
Nobody's laughing.
Food standards, workers rights and environmental standards, all higher in the UK than the EU minimums. Yes, I am aware of the recent vote in the HoC, and yes, of course I'm concerned.
eternumviti
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Colin, you've really got to stop linking to twitter. It makes you look like a 'continuity' remainer.
Brian
Eating fat, staying slim
To be fair, he isn’t the only one linking to chaff on twatter.
Well, they voted for it, so yeah. Fk 'em. This is what you voted for, Sunderland! Get used to it, there's going to be plenty more. Did anyone ever tell you to be careful what you asked for? This is what they meant.
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