Addis pads - probably the greatest single upgrade ever…in the world!
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windhoek
The Phoolosopher
If the speakers in your avatar are your speakers then that's the first place I'd put some pads+bumpers. No need to worry about spikes and carpets, just plonk your speakers on top of them and off you go. That said, you get 300 pads per mat so I guess you've plenty of pads to choose from as well plenty of choices as to how you deploy them
windhoek
The Phoolosopher
I just tried putting the magic combo underneath my Roland JC-22 guitar amp and I'm pleased to say it does wonders for guitar amps as well. At first I tried simply putting Addis pads beneath the big rubber feet that were already on the amp but once I removed the rubber feet and placed small bumpers between amp and Addis pads as per, then even more magic was unleashed. I reckon speakers are the big winners when it comes to the magic combo. Right, where else can I put some...
windhoek
The Phoolosopher
My pre-Cirkus LP12 has a slight warp so I defo need bumpers to go along with the Addis pads. But if you've got the pads working by themselves then great!
James Evans
Bedroom Bodger
There'll be a B&M purchasing dept somewhere wondering what on earth is going on with these Addis sink protectors trending at the moment
Joe
pfm Member
You could stick some on the cheeks of your arse so that when sat in the sweet spot you get the full benefit.....also , as you have so many to spare , a few on the soles of your slippers can do no harm.
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Might I suggest responses by pm, or by snail mail under plain cover?
windhoek
The Phoolosopher
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
In all seriousness, I'm of the opinion that even with an array of test equipment, it could be a very onerous task to identify unwanted resonances, their frequencies, any demonstrable effect on SQ etc.
So for 'yer average Joe', there are three options:
1. Invest in some sort of 'one size fits all' ( more probably 'one size fits none') 'Isolation feet', mats, cones, pads,squidgy things, springs, etc.
2. Experiment with Addis pads and any number of other objects/materials, to see what happens. You may stumble across something which works, for you, or something that doesn't, but if buggering about is your 'bag', you'll have fun.
3. Just set up your chosen kit properly, play some music and stop fretting.
Many years ago, I was at a friend's . At the time he had a big Linn active system, with a full spec LP12 sitting on an oddball stand made by a chap called Dyer. Friend thought the stand had a magical effect on his LP12. We were playing CD, so we took the LP12 off the stand and put his pre-amp..(Kairn?) in its place. The result was a dramatic 'thinning' of the sound with an almost 'staticy' effect. We double checked that no wires had been disturbed and swapped the pre back and forth, with an entirely repeatable degradation of sound on the TT stand.
Moral? Supports can have an effect, but there is no universal 'magic' solution.
So for 'yer average Joe', there are three options:
1. Invest in some sort of 'one size fits all' ( more probably 'one size fits none') 'Isolation feet', mats, cones, pads,squidgy things, springs, etc.
2. Experiment with Addis pads and any number of other objects/materials, to see what happens. You may stumble across something which works, for you, or something that doesn't, but if buggering about is your 'bag', you'll have fun.
3. Just set up your chosen kit properly, play some music and stop fretting.
Many years ago, I was at a friend's . At the time he had a big Linn active system, with a full spec LP12 sitting on an oddball stand made by a chap called Dyer. Friend thought the stand had a magical effect on his LP12. We were playing CD, so we took the LP12 off the stand and put his pre-amp..(Kairn?) in its place. The result was a dramatic 'thinning' of the sound with an almost 'staticy' effect. We double checked that no wires had been disturbed and swapped the pre back and forth, with an entirely repeatable degradation of sound on the TT stand.
Moral? Supports can have an effect, but there is no universal 'magic' solution.
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
windhoek
The Phoolosopher
As I'm want to say, change one thing and you change everything. I've changed the interface between my speakers and the stands they sit on and the end sound has changed immensely. You might be right, a given solution and the subsequent outcome might not be to everyone's taste, in terms of end sound, so no arguments there. But certainly in my system, this change has been completely transformative.
Big Tabs
looking backwards, going forwards
Cool
windhoek
The Phoolosopher
Mmm, I've just thought of another way to use this stuff - as a turntable mat!
EDIT: a few comparisons later between mats and I think the Addis stuff sounds marginally better. There's a bit of flex with having a whole sheet of the stuff so I've had to put a mana spirit level on when playing a record. Unfortunately, I rolled up the mat I bought yesterday so I could fit it in my backpack so it might well be it still wants to roll up, as it were. I might buy another mat and see if I can't keep it nice and straight and then try again with that.
EDIT: a few comparisons later between mats and I think the Addis stuff sounds marginally better. There's a bit of flex with having a whole sheet of the stuff so I've had to put a mana spirit level on when playing a record. Unfortunately, I rolled up the mat I bought yesterday so I could fit it in my backpack so it might well be it still wants to roll up, as it were. I might buy another mat and see if I can't keep it nice and straight and then try again with that.
Haven't you heard of spotmats and their many variations. Work very well.
https://www.theanalogdept.com/spotmat.htm
windhoek
The Phoolosopher
Yeah, I've seen something like that before. I wouldn't have known where to find the image though so thank you!
I was walking past the B&M store in a local mall so I went in and purchased an Addis Deluxe Sink Mat.
Got home and cut out 8 pads and attached small bumpers to each. I removed my Mordaunt Short Pageant Mk2’s from their stands and replaced the original flattened neoprene strip with a pad in each corner. Re-mounting the speakers proved to be more of a challenge than I anticipated! The first bumpers I used were clear and were quite hard and between that and the pads moving I was not happy with the speakers stability. So I removed the clear bumpers and fixed some smaller, softer black bumpers and fixed the pads to the stands with double sided tape, that made it much easier.
There is definitely a difference, and dare I say its an improvement. The sound is fuller and imagery is much more stable, funnily I was able to tune the “balance” on my Naim Nait much more easily. Regardless, they are now in and staying.
Got home and cut out 8 pads and attached small bumpers to each. I removed my Mordaunt Short Pageant Mk2’s from their stands and replaced the original flattened neoprene strip with a pad in each corner. Re-mounting the speakers proved to be more of a challenge than I anticipated! The first bumpers I used were clear and were quite hard and between that and the pads moving I was not happy with the speakers stability. So I removed the clear bumpers and fixed some smaller, softer black bumpers and fixed the pads to the stands with double sided tape, that made it much easier.
There is definitely a difference, and dare I say its an improvement. The sound is fuller and imagery is much more stable, funnily I was able to tune the “balance” on my Naim Nait much more easily. Regardless, they are now in and staying.
