Dupes ? You mean gun carrying fundamentalist 'christians' ?
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Dupes ? You mean gun carrying fundamentalist 'christians' ?
martin clark
pinko bodger
what - lack of intelligence..?
I'm all for breaking down barriers in society, but Dorries' chaotic, exploitative (to own benefit - Expenses claims, anyone..?) and often totally unthinkingly-hateful approach =--> Damn right, not to fit for further elevation.
Wasn't ever fit, to be an MP.
Good Riddance.
I'm all for breaking down barriers in society, but Dorries' chaotic, exploitative (to own benefit - Expenses claims, anyone..?) and often totally unthinkingly-hateful approach =--> Damn right, not to fit for further elevation.
Wasn't ever fit, to be an MP.
Good Riddance.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
Surely steward and bailiff of three hundred children would be nearer the mark.
martin clark
pinko bodger
In the history yet to be written, the FitzJohnsons are going to be .. a large & complicated chart
Sloop John B
And any old music will do…
I would imagine the worst thing to happen to Boris now - from his perspective- will be for us to stop talking about him - to stop acting as if he can make some sort of comeback. He’s actually quite finished - no way back.
let’s close the thread now, and hopefully it will be a fitting political RIP.
.sjb
let’s close the thread now, and hopefully it will be a fitting political RIP.
.sjb
notaclue
pfm Member
Does she mean that Satanists and Luciferians and black magikians are running Number 10? Or perhaps the Freemasons? Or the Illuminati?
Or perhaps we are governed by reptilians?
This would not surprise me.
I suspect she is right.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
It’s the only real work he’s ever done and quite often he’s the one paying for it.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
Letter in today's Times.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Claughton expresses a contradiction. He is proud to produce a ‘global elite’, but somehow wants that elite to be free from a sense of ‘privilege’ and ‘entitlement’. A sense of privilege and entitlement goes hand in hand with notions of belonging to an elite.Letter in today's Times.
The Master of Eton College is conflicted. It is his purpose to produce the Boris Johnsons and the Rees-Moggs of this world.
tones
Tones deaf
An interesting article by the FT's excellent Gideon Rachman:
https://on.ft.com/45TS7T3
As the gift link seems to work only a limited number of times, some excerpts to give the general flavour:
Both Britain and America flatter themselves that their political systems are admired all over the world. The UK is the home to the “mother of parliaments”. The US is the “leader of the free world”. The two countries see themselves as mature democracies; models that other nations can emulate. But the last few years have shaken that Anglo-American complacency...
The troubles of democracy have deep roots in both countries. But they are also closely associated with two individuals — Donald Trump and Boris Johnson. Trump and Johnson have championed a similar style of politics. Both have built up cults of personality, convincing their most devoted followers that they are men of destiny. Both are nostalgic nationalists, who have promised to restore their country’s greatness. Both claim to be representatives of the people against a self-interested elite. Because they regard themselves as unique, indispensable figures, Johnson and Trump have felt free to break the laws and conventions that normally bind political leaders. When challenged or held to account, both have claimed to be the victims of a deep-state conspiracy....
The reactions of Trump and Johnson to their current travails are strikingly similar. They have followed the same paranoid and self-interested narrative, claiming that they are the victims of a political conspiracy and that the system is rigged against them and their followers. Such assertions strike at the heart of the US and British images of themselves as mature democracies in which the rule of law is not a charade but a reality. The bleak suggestion is that governance in Washington and London is little different from Moscow or Ankara. Both Trump and Johnson are fabulists for whom the truth is simply what is politically or personally convenient at the time. That style of politics is becoming more common and threatening. We live in a social media age in which “alternative facts” (in the words of a former Trump aide) can always be concocted, if the real facts prove inconvenient. Any functioning, law-governed democracy must be based on the idea that there is such a thing as truth and that it can be established in a court or by a parliamentary committee...
A majority of voters, like the courts, also have to be able to resist conspiracy theories and “alternative” facts. That seems far from a sure thing in the US, where Trump remains the favourite for the Republican nomination and is neck and neck with President Joe Biden in the polls for an election. The cases of Trump and Johnson will matter far beyond the shores of the US and the UK. If they are properly handled, it will send a vital message to people battling autocracies all over the world. America and Britain need to show that it really is possible to have a system in which political leaders are held to account — and where the rule of law is a reality not a myth.
https://on.ft.com/45TS7T3
As the gift link seems to work only a limited number of times, some excerpts to give the general flavour:
Both Britain and America flatter themselves that their political systems are admired all over the world. The UK is the home to the “mother of parliaments”. The US is the “leader of the free world”. The two countries see themselves as mature democracies; models that other nations can emulate. But the last few years have shaken that Anglo-American complacency...
The troubles of democracy have deep roots in both countries. But they are also closely associated with two individuals — Donald Trump and Boris Johnson. Trump and Johnson have championed a similar style of politics. Both have built up cults of personality, convincing their most devoted followers that they are men of destiny. Both are nostalgic nationalists, who have promised to restore their country’s greatness. Both claim to be representatives of the people against a self-interested elite. Because they regard themselves as unique, indispensable figures, Johnson and Trump have felt free to break the laws and conventions that normally bind political leaders. When challenged or held to account, both have claimed to be the victims of a deep-state conspiracy....
The reactions of Trump and Johnson to their current travails are strikingly similar. They have followed the same paranoid and self-interested narrative, claiming that they are the victims of a political conspiracy and that the system is rigged against them and their followers. Such assertions strike at the heart of the US and British images of themselves as mature democracies in which the rule of law is not a charade but a reality. The bleak suggestion is that governance in Washington and London is little different from Moscow or Ankara. Both Trump and Johnson are fabulists for whom the truth is simply what is politically or personally convenient at the time. That style of politics is becoming more common and threatening. We live in a social media age in which “alternative facts” (in the words of a former Trump aide) can always be concocted, if the real facts prove inconvenient. Any functioning, law-governed democracy must be based on the idea that there is such a thing as truth and that it can be established in a court or by a parliamentary committee...
A majority of voters, like the courts, also have to be able to resist conspiracy theories and “alternative” facts. That seems far from a sure thing in the US, where Trump remains the favourite for the Republican nomination and is neck and neck with President Joe Biden in the polls for an election. The cases of Trump and Johnson will matter far beyond the shores of the US and the UK. If they are properly handled, it will send a vital message to people battling autocracies all over the world. America and Britain need to show that it really is possible to have a system in which political leaders are held to account — and where the rule of law is a reality not a myth.
billo
pfm Member
Don't worry, it will be an old boy who is too thick to get a job in The City or even an ADHD diagnosis
Colin L
High-tech low-life
She isn't even fit to be from Liverpool. She must have been spirited away from an Essex family by the fairies.
tones
Tones deaf
Until recently, I'd never heard of Nadine Dorries (have I missed much?). But this amused me:
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/poli..._term=0_6c9c2fcf0b-4e4e7a35aa-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/poli..._term=0_6c9c2fcf0b-4e4e7a35aa-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]
