Mike Reed
pfm Member
but those in cars have the most suitable hardware for doing serious damage.
I'd put HGVs ahead, having been squashed in a Mini by one (the Mini was quite narrow enough !)
but those in cars have the most suitable hardware for doing serious damage.
Ha. As one that currently has a car in for appraisal after being rear ended by an HGV at a roundabout, I'd be minded to agree.I'd put HGVs ahead, having been squashed in a Mini by one (the Mini was quite narrow enough !)
The law is one thing but practically speaking one risks killing someone or being killed by sticking to the letter.I had a cyclist call me a ****er! He claimed that he had the right of way because he was going straight on. This was on a roundabout that I had already entered before he crossed the "Give-Way" markings.
But only cyclists can be hypocritical, about cars and pedestrians.As someone that drives, walks and cycles, I would say that the rude, stupid, dangerous and inconsiderate are equally distributed among all modes of perambulation, but those in cars have the most suitable hardware for doing serious damage.
Which is why all road users should do so with consideration for the more vulnerable. There is an us & them mentality which is unhelpful & upsetting.
Tell that to all the pavement parkers. A genuine scourge.The law is one thing but practically speaking one risks killing someone or being killed by sticking to the letter.
Would I pull out if was on a bicycle and they in a car? I would be right - at the pearly gates.
But only cyclists can be hypocritical, about cars and pedestrians.
Please read my post again.I did not pull out on him, I was already on the roundabout before he entered it at some speed I must add.The law is one thing but practically speaking one risks killing someone or being killed by sticking to the letter.
Would I pull out if was on a bicycle and they in a car? I would be right - at the pearly gates.
Don't waste your breath responding. There's always someone who can't judge the situation based on what someone says happened. Annoying, but predictable.Please read my post again.I did not pull out on him, I was already on the roundabout before he entered it at some speed I must add.
Car drivers may have an obnoxious attitude about larger, heavier and faster entities taking precedence but at least it's consistent.Tell that to all the pavement parkers. A genuine scourge.
Pulled out from where? Really not clear here what it is you think the OP did that puts him in the wrong.You pulled out. Otherwise you'd still be there. No-one else needs to be there for you to pull out. Those extra words are yours.
My less terse phrase would be "pull out in the situation you described".
Why, do you cycle on the pavement now?Tell that to all the pavement parkers. A genuine scourge.
Why, do you cycle on the pavement now?
Cyclists are allowed under the Highway Code to ride two abreast, it is often safer.
Cars have compulsory insurance due to the potential harm & damage they cause in the huge number of accidents they are involved in & cause. This does not apply to cyclists, the irony being that if more cyclists do have insurance then the humble motorist will see his/her premiums rocket.
As ever there is false equivalence between cars being delayed by 10-15 seconds & putting actual human beings at risk. Strangely you rarely, if ever, see motorists close pass horse riders, blare their horns or shout aggressively at them.
There is a difference between being a cyclist & just a person on a bike messing about.
Last weekend I was close passed & beeped aggressively by a car travelling through the Chatsworth estate. This just sums up the mentality; said driver could have just used the A6 if he was in a hurry.
The most negligent cyclist will cause less damage than the most careful motorist.
Hope I have covered everything. I also drive a BMW.
Of course a cyclist can kill or be killed by a pedestrian due to an accident, it is incredibly rare. Look at the number of people killed by cars in the same period, not all of them will be reckless as such.Whilst I agree with almost everything you have written there, the bit in bold is alas, not true:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...jailed-for-18-months-over-death-of-pedestrian
A bicycle (or indeed electric bike or scooter) hitting a pedestrian at speed will cause serious damage. You need to be considerate and careful whatever you drive/ride.
You seem to be suggesting that the OP pulled out onto the roundabout and had the altercation with the cyclist, whereas the OP seems (to me) to have been pretty clear that he was already on the roundabout (and hence, had right of way) before the cyclist joined the roundabout. So I’m not clear what you’re getting at here, that’s all. So no, I don’t think your post is particularly clearly expressed and, yes, I did pore over it before I wrote my question. But I detect a note of irritation in your riposte, so I’m happy to let it go if you prefer. Don’t want a fuss, got enough of one to deal with on the war on woke thread.What do you mean, "pulled out from where?" Sorry I don't understand this question.
Did I write "wrong"? I wrote "Would I pull out if I was on a bicycle and they in a car? I would be RIGHT ..." My point is about safety as distinct from being right about the Highway Code. Feel free to pour over my posts to check.
Of course a cyclist can kill or be killed by a pedestrian due to an accident, it is incredibly rare. Look at the number of people killed by cars in the same period, not all of them will be reckless as such.
It is also worth pointing out that at the very least the cyclist was sent to jail, he was actually a rather unpleasant & unsympathetic offender. The coverage received was far in excess of normal for a road traffic offence; there’d be no room for other news if all serious traffic offences were covered in such ways.
By way of contrast a friend of mine was nearly killed by a car which turned across him, he’s been left with life changing injuries. The driver? Wasn’t even prosecuted, sent on a driver awareness course! Driver 100% at fault BTW, my friend has insurance so the insurance company are taking a big hit.