Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Will we still be here?
Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+5)?
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Cheese
Bitter lover
Are you sure notaclue ?
notaclue
pfm Member
Oh, yes. Boris confirmed the Brexit vision is one of recapturing the Victorian era https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/07/15/boris-johnson-rallying-cry-brexit-time-believe-great-Britain/
MikeMA
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I think this is unfair to the Victorians.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
The Glaswegian painters, so generous in their support of Boris now the Foreign Secretary’s stipend has come to an end. £250,000 a year for an occasional contribution in their pamphlet, or is it buying influence?
Cheese
Bitter lover
I could not read that he'd wish back 'that era's poverty or the atrocities of empire or the wars'. Not that I am a fan of his (dunno much about him really) but I doubt he'd go that far.
ff1d1l
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Yes, once you adjust your perception to the correct one, that brexiteer politicians are self serving, principal-free areas who just want to keep their snouts in the trough, all becomes clear.
eternumviti
Insufficient privileges to reply.
Indeed. A bit like MEPs, and much of the remain diaspora too. Self-interest knows no frontiers.
richardg
Admonishtrator
Hmm..well here's one pro-remainer politician 2 tables down from us in one of Strasbourg's most famous restaurants. Actually I thought it was a politician, but when I looked again I realised it was only a disgusting pig with his snout in the trough, turning up for free food even after he had no official business here.
He has form too:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...y-taxpayer-funded-trips-alex-salmond-tasmina/
Sorry it's the Telegraph. I didn't think a credible source was that important, as I saw the fat cnut with my own eyes. Tasmina was just to the right, behind my mate's ugly noggin.
richardg
Admonishtrator
Don't forget institutionalised ex MPs that can't seem to let go.
davidsrsb
pfm Member
I don't think many Victorians actually wanted to oppress the workers and colonials, they just ignored the problem. If it came to their attention, it was justified in bringing civilisation/religion
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
I suspect there might also be an element of 'if it doesn't affect me and mine, why should I be concerned?' too.
MikeMA
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The VIctorian era was a bit of a mixed bag, wasn't it? While there was undoubtedly a great deal of exploitation and repression going on here and overseas, at the same time there were the beginnings of some great social reforms. Plus it was a great age for scientific and engineering invention and progress, to such an extent that we are still living off the legacy of Victorian public works, like most of our railways, roads, sewers and civic buildings.
MikeMA
pfm Member
Indeed, and it gets up my nose when people like Johnson and Mogg, who have never done anything useful in their lives, start banging on about Victorian values.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
They haven't got themselves in mind for the Victorian values gig.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
I don’t know, the Enlightenment with a good set of teeth and an allowance would have been fun.
Remain politicians will be responsible for no deal Brexit by voting against any deal that is economically worse than EU membership. But things could be worse 
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...la-remainiac-britain-second-brexit-referendum
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...la-remainiac-britain-second-brexit-referendum
Seanm
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Jesus. I’m embarrassed for her, and not for the first time.Remain politicians will be responsible for no deal Brexit by voting against any deal that is economically worse than EU membership. But things could be worse
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...la-remainiac-britain-second-brexit-referendum
Please, no-one else click on the link: a part of you will move closer to Leave.
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