What are you referring to with 'external'?
Suppliers of parts, PCB, casing, etc and their quality control
What are you referring to with 'external'?
Suppliers of parts, PCB, casing, etc and their quality control
I thought that the Detox served that purpose.
I thought that the Detox served that purpose.
I'm guessing FDAC will be a bit more complicated adding PSU, display, ESS and various other IC's, analogue PCB etc which will all be critical to final performance.
From my experience extensive quality control and testing lead to shorter and more reliable projects. I've seen extremely large IT telecom projects fail because the customer insisted on skipping testphases and demanding impossible go-live dates
I guess many of us, including myself, already have "Lite" DAC's awaiting the FWC FDAC.
Has it occurred to you that those of us that have a MDAC can sell it. That should cover the £280. But the salvaged ovners paid £350 for their brick and cant't sell it.
But they get the FWC chassis which should cover their loss.
That is fair
I think the Toy/Fusion owners had the £300 credit from the start of the project and without them there had probably not been a mdac2 project.
So stop complaining about what is fair or not.
I have by the way paid 2 x full development cost and don't complain.
What is fair is that we hopefull get an amazing DAC in the end.
The original plan was to charge GBP100 development fee to cover the cost of the FWC (the mechanical designer is not cheap, we also have to design the Front Panel PCB and HQ PSU) so there is a lot of work involved in the full width chassis.
As the FWC is now the only option, we are not requesting an extra GBP100 development fee - so I hope you can see that the FWC is being offered at an already discounted rate.
In the end wrong decisions also add to the cost of the project.I agreed with the target goal but this is more a principle question and related to method to cover the cost of wrong decision and what At Cost is meaning which seems to vary from person to person.
It looks that PFM supporters who have already paid for development cost are going to pay FWC chassis to those who have ordered salvaged MDACs (about 50£ + VAT extra / chassis).
Hi John
Sorry, I haven't been keeping an eye on the progress of the project for a while.
Do I have the option of withdrawing support and getting a refund for my installments made so far? I've just seen that none of the parts from my MDAC, which I paid £500 for solely to use as a donor unit, are going to be usable. The project has suddenly become nearly £300 more expensive for me and that has probably financially tipped me over the edge.
I don't definitely want to duck out yet but it would be good to know that the option is available.
Cheers
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You could also wait for the FDAC Lite which appears we will now be releasing very shortly after the FDAC FWC reaches production (it will have already been developed as an internal engineering step for the FWC FDAC), this has 80% to 90% of the FWC FDAC's audio performance (its has the FDAC's Advanced MOSFET analogue stage + Dual ESS's).
Very good news
Thanks for this
Hope it will happen (seeing as it has been on and off already..... )
Cheers,
Johan
Wow forget the difficulties of the FDAC design - this IS great:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pillaOxGCo
Cottage industry at its best
Where did you get this impression from in the first place? Did you consider that maybe chassis, psu and display+pcb really do cost about £280?