Carl Nyqvist
pfm Member
Twisted Sisters 4th album. Deffo.
I think you've got to be more strict in terms of the definition of Rock music. I'd argue that whilst there were some great (and worthy) precursors to Rock - Elvis, Robert Johnson etc - they "merely" fed the beast.
Ramones - It's Alive
Piss easy
Highway 61 Revisited - His Bobness
Are You Experienced - Jimi and the Boys
Astral Weeks - Van
White Album - The Fabs
Velvet Underground - The Velvets
The above are like the boundaries, everything else can fit into the centre
And if it goes to the wire, then its Jimi.
Is Astral Weeks rock? What is rock?
Way too limited IMO, it's less than a 5 year period, and too UK-centric. I'd probably go for something like:
Robert Jonson - King Of The Delta Blues Singers
The Stooges - The Stooges
Can - Tago Mago
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Pixies - Surfa Rosa
And that still doesn't get close to being up to date! I'd feel very awkward leaving out Elvis Rock N Roll, The Beatles Hard Days Night, MC5 Kick Out The Jams, Jimi Hendrix Are You Experienced, Miles Davis Bitches Brew, Pink Floyd Piper, Amon Duul II Yeti, Neu! Neu!, Black Sabbath's debut, Patti Smith Horses, Gang Of Four Entertainment, The Minutemen Double Nickel On The Dime, Mogwai Young Team etc etc etc, all of which were hugely innovative and all at the start of something that grew / is still relevant now. I've missed tons out, you'd need 50 really, and it would be necessary to go from vintage US blues right through to the laptop / bedroom innovators of today.
Tony.
I have huge empathy with your sentiments, but even Van the Man is reported to have said words to the effect that 'Weeks' may be many things, but it is 'definitely not rock'..oh so close
Swap The Fabs out for LZ1 and it's tip top 100%
And it doesn't matter if it goes to the wire as Astral Weeks is always a Belfast mile in front of uh... everything
JK
but he said.. 'It is definitely not rock'Of course it is rock. Rock not all about "Black night is a long way from home" Rock has a central core eg LZ, AC/DC, Doors, Stones, but also boundaries which define it and Astral Weeks shows how rock connects with and reaches out to other genres like folk and jazz while showing a spontaneity which is still unrivaled. Possibly the finest rock album ever and he is still a moaning old bastard.
I have huge empathy with your sentiments, but even Van the Man is reported to have said words to the effect that 'Weeks' may be many things, but it is 'definitely not rock'..
Mull
Mull
Yup, he did say that. But he's a grumpy old git
It's not folk, jazz, classical, blues, techno, rap &c
So what is it?
JK
So maybe we need a new category for albums that can't be categorised.