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I don’t really know what I’m saying, I’m certainly not trying to be some kind of moral arbiter and I hope I’m not coming over as such, I’m just pointing out that this is the financial model for much of the internet and folk should be aware of that fact.
 
I am on Safari 11, but hadn't enabled the always block and ask websites not to track me options. I have done that now.

Have been using an ad-blocker, which gives me the option of seeing the ads.

What deals with the auto-play videos?

Jack

Safari > Preferences > Websites > AutoPlay

Bottom right pull-down for 'global' setting, in the pane above you can customise for specific sites.
 
Hope you contribute to the sites you visit Jack. It is the equivalent of folk diving behind a paywall to grab your journalism.

Hardly as black and white as that. Install the Ghostery extension. Some sites are running 15-20 different tracking scripts. It's taking the piss and time it was stopped. It's the 'creepy line' again.

I completely accept that PFM ad serving is relatively low tech and not deliberately abusive/intrusive, although in some quarters Viglink has a reputation roughly on a par with that of the Waffen SS.

It's an industry which has largely relied on ignorance and indifference to extend its influence to the extent it has.

Back in the day, Microsoft were frequently referred to as 'The Borg' but the online ad industry has pushed in all directions to an extent that Ballmer would never have dared in his wettest of dreams.

The EU actually bans quite a lot of stuff they currently get away with in the US.
 
I don’t really know what I’m saying, I’m certainly not trying to be some kind of moral arbiter and I hope I’m not coming over as such, I’m just pointing out that this is the financial model for much of the internet and folk should be aware of that fact.

I am quite happy to look at adverts on sites that I regularly use, but I don't particularly want to be tracked. I assume this is how a Burlington Estates ad can turn up on various websites I use during the day.

The first few times I saw ads on say Facebook for shoes, hi-fi or guitars, that I'd looked at or saved elsewhere, I thought it was a bit of a laugh. The repetition though is a bit like being hit with a digital hammer.

It is obviously difficult to please both website owners and yourself while surfing. I do appreciate your take on Apple though, obviously a lot of site owners feel the same.

Jack
 
Apple may be extraordinarily large and powerful, but I’m prepared to bet the Venn diagram of Apple owners and independent website owners has some very considerable overlap! I have spent several £thousand with them to date and to replace my current MacBook like for like looks to be around £2.8k, so they don’t want to piss me off too much!

PS I thought Chrome was an ad tracking device!

Again all relative. When I bought my first Apple products, I got 2 Macs, 2 monitors, a scanner and an A4 b&w laser printer, from which I got about enough change out of 25 grand for a pint and a packet of crisps. Imagine the hifi system I could have bought for that money then (1989).

There was a long time when newbies thought the official name of the company was 'beleagured Apple Computer.'
 
Think I'll wait for a while. Aside from which it's free which always makes me suspicious, that means it has more value to them than me.
 
Yes, I’d give it until the .1 revision. I wanted to see it so I dived straight in, but as usual I suspect there are some issues. I think leaving it to fester for a good few hours as speeded it up a lot, though boot and shutdown feel slower than Sierra. I had a wierd graphics glitch shutting down just now too where the black screen flashed. Lets hope the .1 appears soon.
 
Now done MacBook Pro Retina (with SSD) early 2015 and it has gone surprisingly well so far. Using that now for this post.

Have fun upgraders
 
All good here with daily often 7 day usage. No glitches at all, IME. Geekbench score is now 18500, only 8500 ahead of the new iPhones! (Mac Pro 6 core trash can).
 
The thing to understand is that the ads do not know who you are, your name, your details etc. They are anonymous. All they know is that the computer you are using has been to site x, y, z etc, and they know this by storing a cookie etc. As stated upthread, and I guess as I fully understand and am comfortable with this, I really like it as if I’m going to be looking at ads (and I am as I support independent websites) then I’d far prefer to be targeted with stuff I’m genuinely interested in rather than payday loans, gambling, sportswear or other stuff I’d not touch with a bargepole. As an example at present I’m seeing an ad for ‘LED Event Technology’ as I have fairly recently bought a couple of LED bulbs, but I also get musical instruments, CDs, bike parts etc. I can live with that as even if I’m not in the market for that actual thing, it does correspond to something I have some purchasing history and interest in. I’ve often found these types of ads a useful memory jog and have bought as a result.

PS I’m now getting a B&W ad, which is great. Exactly the sort of thing that should be here.

Tony, then I think it's worth knowing that very often those ads works wrongly (at least on this page, and with me), because for example today I got some Malaysian mobile provider ad. First I saw those irrelevant ads I thought my ISP provider changed my ip address to some other country, which sometimes happen here with some mobile providers, but that was not the case.
 
Its crazy but........ my Mac Mini music server with High Sierra running Amarra 3 into my Weiss and the music has improved! I've waited a few days before posting and have tried different stuff but yes the music is better even compressed pop! Better timbre, more space around the instruments, more realistic yadda yadda.

I noticed a similar improvement when I migrated from a 2010 Mac Mini running Snow Leopard to a 2012 i5 Mini with Yosemite. Crazy Huh?

Serendipity is sooo good.

........and no we don't need a blind test when an improvement is obvious. Of course my ears might have improved for some reason.........

Cheers,

DV
 
Day 5 running the final release of 10.13 on a mid 2011 with platter drive (HFS +), a 2014 5K with fusion drive (HFS +) and a 2014 MB Air with SSD (APFS) - no issues found on any of my machines.

No changes found in sound quality using my hi-tech options like the Macs' internal speakers or AirPods ;-)
 
Its crazy but........ my Mac Mini music server with High Sierra running Amarra 3 into my Weiss and the music has improved! I've waited a few days before posting and have tried different stuff but yes the music is better even compressed pop! Better timbre, more space around the instruments, more realistic yadda yadda.

I noticed a similar improvement when I migrated from a 2010 Mac Mini running Snow Leopard to a 2012 i5 Mini with Yosemite. Crazy Huh?

Serendipity is sooo good.

........and no we don't need a blind test when an improvement is obvious. Of course my ears might have improved for some reason.........

Cheers,

DV
Would you say veils have been lifted and if so, how many?
 
Its crazy but........ my Mac Mini music server with High Sierra running Amarra 3 into my Weiss and the music has improved! I've waited a few days before posting and have tried different stuff but yes the music is better even compressed pop! Better timbre, more space around the instruments, more realistic yadda yadda.

I noticed a similar improvement when I migrated from a 2010 Mac Mini running Snow Leopard to a 2012 i5 Mini with Yosemite. Crazy Huh?

Serendipity is sooo good.

........and no we don't need a blind test when an improvement is obvious. Of course my ears might have improved for some reason.........

Cheers,

DV

DV
Risking a temporary detour to this thread: were you tempted by the 'upgrade' to Amarra 4 luxe? It doesn't seem outrageously expensive but I was put off by reports like, 'sounds different but still good'. The advertised usability appeals but I like the sound of 3 very much so daren't jump. What did you do (if anything) about it all?
 
flickering display issues and fix is noted here: 'what-high-sierra-broke-and-how-to-fix-it'

https://blog.macsales.com/42481-mac...x-it?utm_source=xlr8yourmac&APC=XLR8YourMac13

(staying on El Capitan here at least until the point release comes out... and maybe longer)

I keep a clone of my Mac disk on an external disk. I use SuperDupa (free) or you may chose Carbon Copy. Hard disks are sooo cheap and if your internal disk/ssd dies or woteva you can boot the clone run diskutils and if that doesn't sort things out clone back your disk and if necessary restore stuff from Time machine.

However I have now gone one better and run OS X in a VM so that I can test out new O/S in isolation. High Sierra is working fine in a VM under Windows 7.

Cheers,

DV
 
DV
Risking a temporary detour to this thread: were you tempted by the 'upgrade' to Amarra 4 luxe? It doesn't seem outrageously expensive but I was put off by reports like, 'sounds different but still good'. The advertised usability appeals but I like the sound of 3 very much so daren't jump. What did you do (if anything) about it all?

I am still on Amarra 3 as I don't see any point of Amarra 4. OK it adds prettification and modern presentation that goes down well with the younger generation like my 23 yo. However my gut feel is that the music player engine is the same or has changed very little. Whoever wrote the music player engine for Sonic Studio knows what they are doing. However whoever screws up the interface is a monkey. I have been with this music player for 7 years and in the early days reported many bugs but after a while I gave up. The latest version of Amarra 3 is still buggy after all these years however when it works it does work well.

I guess some agency who know their onions produces Amarra Symphony and Sonic Studio pays a monkey to screw it up and so produce the cheaper versions that most of us buy.

Cheers,

DV
 


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