Here I compared the 8Cs to a traditional pair of actives that you are very familiar with Andy,
https://www.puriteaudio.co.uk/singl...ome-further-thoughts-and-initial-measurements
Keith
rofl.
Here I compared the 8Cs to a traditional pair of actives that you are very familiar with Andy,
https://www.puriteaudio.co.uk/singl...ome-further-thoughts-and-initial-measurements
Keith
I'm not attacking Keith's competence, and I don't want to be combative. I'm just posing the question of what really constitute 'good measurements'. One person might find a flat presence region to be an excellent goal to aspire to; another might find it to be more appropriate for studio analysis than home listening. Similarly with the bass. Is flat desirable? Most prefer a mild hump, but for some there's nothing worse than a small speaker insistently pushing the mid-bass to disguise the lack of lower bass. That would be my first and more general question. But I am also puzzled as to why Keith feels his measurements are good according to his own criteria; i.e. flatness; since, as I said, they look pretty peaky and troughy from the screen grabs provided.
The problem with these discussions is that a) we need to be able to see the graphs to discuss them and, as has been pointed out numerous times, we can't see the real figures from a screen grab. And b) they never are real discussions; they always seem to be marred by absolute claims one way or the other, so everyone gets wound up and defensive.
A nice 33 band Technics SH8065I say bring back the equalizer... ewarwoowar
The narrow 200Hz dip is almost certainly comb filtering, probably because I didn’t have the microphone exactly eqi-distant between the speakers, it doesn’t appear on my other measurements of the Kiis/8Cs.
Keith
I say bring back the equalizer... ewarwoowar
Keith, May I suggest that you get the microphone placement perfect, do some measurements that you feel you can really stand by, then publish them on your own thread, but link images rather than screen grabs, so that we can properly read the parameters. It would also be worth making the argument as to why you think the measurements for your speakers are good, since it can't be taken as gospel that 'flat is good'.
It would also be useful to give some guidelines for others on how to do measurements in a domestic environment. Then when you come out with the mantra about acoustically measuring your room you can back it up with a link to your thread. That way, you will be creating a resource on pfm, even if this is simply links to the REW instruction manual, or other threads on gearslutz et al.
No, they didn't like that he sold a directly competing product (Dutch & Dutch) and made public, direct comparisons/measurements between them. Why do you feel a need to insult Keith based on no knowledge of the situation?Kii thought so highly of Keith’s competence that they dumped him as a dealer.