All of the evidence appears to indicate that there was little to choose between them at the time. I wonder what the Systemdek 2 sounds like?. Great spacey looks ! Anyone tried one?Silly me! Imagine thinking I preferred the Sytemdek. I must be "thick".
I've owned them twice - very well judged balance, all round, but not the same resolution as the original Transcription/III. It was Peter Dunlop's budget deck, at the time, but it had real potential - hence why Audio Note pimped and rebranded it later.All of the evidence appears to indicate that there was little to choose between them at the time. I wonder what the Systemdek 2 sounds like?. Great spacey looks ! Anyone tried one?
ime, this is where you'll really need to temper expectations - although apologies if you've more than enough experience in this area already.One thing I’ve noticed. I need to clean some of this vinyl.
You must have met the only unbiased hi-fi dealer on earth then, I've certainly never met one. Even the good ones favor the kit they sell and even certain brands within that range of kit. Even when they appear to be giving you an unbiased dem of two products they typically display bias which will effect your decision. Either deliberately and subconsciously. The fact that you went to a dealer who did not stock Linn and came away with the impression that other turntables were better than Linn is a shock to no one.Ah! The gaslighting continues. You were there were you?
They had a used Linn in stock. The Systemdek was used too, actually. They were both for sale. They would have been perfectly happy to sell me either one.... The fact that you went to a dealer who did not stock Linn and came away with the impression that other turntables were better than Linn is a shock to no one.
The 'biscuit tin' sounds ok but nothing special. Looks trick but sounds ordinary and is a pain to use. The arm hangs in mid air with nowhere to rest your hand. Add the very soft springs and manual cuing is not pleasant. Sell for more than they are worth in my opinion.All of the evidence appears to indicate that there was little to choose between them at the time. I wonder what the Systemdek 2 sounds like?. Great spacey looks ! Anyone tried one?
Nice recommendation!The 'biscuit tin' sounds ok but nothing special. Looks trick but sounds ordinary and is a pain to use. The arm hangs in mid air with nowhere to rest you hand. Add the very soft springs and manual cuing is not pleasant. Sell for more than they are worth in my opinion.
The XII is a really nice deck and great value these days. At the time it was priced in between a Rega and the Linn and that's a fair reflection of where it stands. You're not getting the scale, power and weight of the LP12 but it does have some of that flow and rhythm the Linn is famous for. It's also very simple so a safe used buy and Audio Note keeping it alive means some spares should you need them. They typically sell for between £200 and £300 so a clean one is a bargain and a useful if slight step up from an older Planer3 sonically.
Oh yeah, if you can bag a nice XII and have a use for it, get one. For the money I can't think of much else to beat it. An Ariston RD11/RD11s but they are edging up in price these days.Nice recommendation!
This is nonsense.My point was that they didn't recommend one over the other. They gave me a demo and let me choose.
Unlike Linn dealers, whose entire stance was that Linn was best, and anyone who couldn't see thst was an idiot. Gaslighting, basically.
(If you want to know how it was that this approach came to be so prevalent with Linn products, just read any of the interviews with Ivor Tiefenbrun - there are plenty online - and you'll work it out.)
(PS, it wasnt only in hifi that he was convinced he knew better than everyone else. This is the man who once had to resign as a Tory candidate because he said that Scots were "thick" to hate Thatcher.)
Exactly this. There were always dealers who carried Mitchell & SME, it’s not always a choice either brands will have a say in who stocks what.You must have met the only unbiased hi-fi dealer on earth then, I've certainly never met one. Even the good ones favor the kit they sell and even certain brands within that range of kit. Even when they appear to be giving you an unbiased dem of two products they typically display bias which will effect your decision. Either deliberately and subconsciously. The fact that you went to a dealer who did not stock Linn and came away with the impression that other turntables were better than Linn is a shock to no one.
Yeah, it's noticeably better but it's not a huge jump. Most of them shipped with Linn Basiks or a similar Systemdek arm and they sound fine on them. A Rega arm is better though.I still think the IIX was significantly better than an '80s Planar 3. A modern P3 is a different matter, but I'd still expect a IIX in good shape to hold its own, if you put an RB330 on it.
I bought a couple of bottles of some recommended fluid a while ago so I’ll use them. I need some filter papers though.The Disco Antistatic does a great job for the money, just don't use the supplied cleaning fluid, better to make some up yourself or buy recommended solutions which can be found on past threads on here.
Can we please avoid this kind of rudeness?This is nonsense.
It would be nice to have a thread where contributors don’t go off at tangents having their own disputes to be honest.Can we please avoid this kind of rudeness?