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Your old records rescued. Brand new records made

What about the copyright of the album that's just been newly cut? I can see bootlegs and multiples of rare records getting reproduced. Other than that it sounds good.
 
It would be nice also if it were possible to buy replacement album covers to replace old tatty ones. In many cases a lot of my 70's vinyl still sounds good, especially after cleaning, but the original cover is well worn. Does anyone know if this service exists?
 
"No longer would vinyl record enthusiasts have to suffer being unable to play badly damaged records. Nor would they suffer the indignation of putting up with inferior digital copies, complete with that inherent "digital" sound, you just can't get away from."

"the process is to playback and digitize an original record. Restoring audio quality & removing noise in the digital domain, using specialist applications. The restored computer file is then sent to the vinyl record cutting machine in 2 versions. "

Contradiction? No?
 
Maybe, it depends on what you think makes the vinyl sound like vinyl.

I have used an analogue to digital conversion and then a digital to analogue for my phono stage for a few years now. Testing with and without the digital conversion in the loop showed that for me and for others that heard it, you couldn't tell that there was a digital conversion going. Thereby giving me a better digital sound quality, the same sound quality from my turntable and one less box in the system (combined DAC digital preamp replaced analogue preamp + separate DAC).

This of course relates back to the Ivor Tiefenbrun being unable to distinguish an LP12 going through an early digital conversion process (Sony PCM) vs not having it in the loop.

My digital conversion equipment (and Karl Brown's) is technically superior to that early equipment (bit depth, sample frequency, filters etc) so may well enable some additional digital processing without any audible digital artefacts being added.
 
So it removes clicks, not groove damage/wear, the digital file will have a 'vinyl' signature before its recut and given another one on top at playback.....
 
The issues I see are, apart from the cutter probably not being equal to a classic Neumann or Ortofon

1) a decent restoration process is very time consuming, hence expensive

2) it is unlikely that the DIY pitch controller can beat the efficiency of, say, a CompuDisk controller. It may happen that he won't get a full LP side onto a copy side.

3) the material he cuts into differs from pressed vinyl and may be (much) more prone to wear.


All can be solved, but costs are likely to rise.
 
IanW said:
I have used an analogue to digital conversion and then a digital to analogue for my phono stage for a few years now. Testing with and without the digital conversion in the loop showed that for me and for others that heard it, you couldn't tell that there was a digital conversion going. Thereby giving me a better digital sound quality, the same sound quality from my turntable and one less box in the system (combined DAC digital preamp replaced analogue preamp + separate DAC).
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I agree - the digital step will not be audible. But then they shouldn't talk about being able to avoid 'that inherent "digital" sound'.
 
The whole article or sales pitch is contradictory and misleading.

Has anyone sent him an email?

My sentimentality is definitely getting the better of me, however :)

Peter
 
IanW said:
Maybe, it depends on what you think makes the vinyl sound like vinyl.

I have used an analogue to digital conversion and then a digital to analogue for my phono stage for a few years now. Testing with and without the digital conversion in the loop showed that for me and for others that heard it, you couldn't tell that there was a digital conversion going.
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I disagree. As soon as you digitise an analogue recording you will hear the difference straight away on a good system. For the best results keep the analogue signal in the analogue domain.
 
Not wishing to put a damper on anything, but the thing I really don't get is how this would be cheaper, more effective or better than simply finding a better copy of a trashed record. Given the materials and time involved (i.e. it won't be cheap) I'd have thought you could find a very decent copy of all but the most collectable vinyl. Then there is the quality aspect, e.g. if you had say a scratched black-gold stereo first-press of Please Please Me (a collector holy-grail worth £tons) would the restored version really sound any better than a new reissue you could buy for £10-20? I don't see how it could as it is several steps further from the master tape. Anyway, good luck with it, but in Dragon's Den speak, "I'm out".
 
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Tony L said:
Not wishing to put a damper on anything, but the thing I really don't get is how this would be cheaper, more effective or better than simply finding a better copy of a trashed record. Given the materials and time involved (i.e. it won't be cheap) I'd have thought you could find a very decent copy of all but the most collectable vinyl. Then there is the quality aspect, e.g. if you had say a scratched black-gold stereo first-press of Please Please Me (a collector holy-grail worth £tons) would the restored version really sound any better than a new reissue you could buy for £10-20? I don't see how it could as it is several steps further from the master tape. Anyway, good luck with it, but in Dragon's Den speak, "I'm out".
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+1 My thoughts exactly.
 
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Tony L said:
Not wishing to put a damper on anything, but the thing I really don't get is how this would be cheaper, more effective or better than simply finding a better copy of a trashed record. Given the materials and time involved (i.e. it won't be cheap) I'd have thought you could find a very decent copy of all but the most collectable vinyl. Then there is the quality aspect, e.g. if you had say a scratched black-gold stereo first-press of Please Please Me (a collector holy-grail worth £tons) would the restored version really sound any better than a new reissue you could buy for £10-20? I don't see how it could as it is several steps further from the master tape. Anyway, good luck with it, but in Dragon's Den speak, "I'm out".
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Bub said that turntables are "flying out the window" at a hifi shop on Wednesday in Glasgow; so, using this as a very scientifically derived mathematically proven yardstick, with a finite number of records and a huge resurgence in vinyl that will eventually (by this metric) cause the downfall of mp3s, streaming, CDs and the resurgence of necessary Jenga-support systems to "sink vibrations", there will be huge competition for even the shabbiest val doonican and max bygraves records: with no new record plants to pick up the extra demand for new music as the business model for Spotify, falters and fails, we shall witness a bloodbath every time someone places a tatty copy of "brothers in arms" up on the Internet.

Unless steps are taken, it could get pretty brutal and you, sir, along with kickstarters and champions of the new vinyl uprising stand to become gazillionaires.

Viva la revolucion!
 
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Noone could hear a difference, so whilst I agree in theory (and was firmly in the camp of keeping everything in the analogue domain until I grudgingly tried it), the practice has not borne this out.

I have been considering conducting an experiment with multiple a to d and then d to a conversions to see if anyone could hear any differences.

I do have a very revealing system, but too many years of working in F1 may have damaged my hearing so that I cannot hear differences that others can!
 
G T Audio said:
As soon as you digitise an analogue recording you will hear the difference straight away on a good system.
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Any evidence to support that statement, or should we just assume what you really are saying is "I can hear the difference but have no idea if anyone else will hear it too"?

There has been quite some evidence against your statement, starting with that classic Ivor Tiefenbrun example.
 
So what actual product does the client end up with?

An acetate?

There's no evidence the project owner has a pressing plant at his disposal, so what's he actually cutting on his lathe?
 
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