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gavreid
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UK 'deeply disappointed' by Russia and China vetoes
[As if they were going to help to repair the damage to Biden and the EU with some mealy mouthed motion!]
The UK's representative to the Security Council says she is "deeply disappointed" that Russia and China did not back the US draft resolution.
Dame Barbara Woodward says the UK had voted for an "an immediate and sustained ceasefire", to free Israeli hostages, and to "urge against a ground offensive into Rafah".
She says the UK will continue to do "everything we can" to get aid into Gaza, but asserts that an immediate cessation of hostilities is needed to get the required amount of aid into the enclave.
gavreid
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US draft resolution ‘dodges issue of ceasefire’: China
Chinese Ambassador to the UN Zhang Jun has said the Security Council has “dragged its feet” for too long on the issue of an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.The US draft evades and dodges the issue of a ceasefire, remains ambiguous and avoids calling for an immediate ceasefire, he said.
“This [resolution] falls short of the expectations of the international community,” he added. “The US draft on the contrary sets up conditions for a ceasefire, which is no different from giving a green light to continued killings, which is unacceptable.”
Algeria takes UNSC floor
Algeria was one of the three countries that rejected the US-draft resolutionAmar Bendjama, Algeria’s ambassador to the UN, said the text was inadequate and failed to address the immense suffering endured by the Palestinians.
“Those who believe that the Israeli occupying power will choose to uphold its international legal obligations are mistaken,” he told the council.
“They must abandon this fiction.”
Guyana says US resolution lacks proper attribution to Israel
Guyana is the only country that abstained in the UN Security Council vote on the US resolution.Ambassador Carolyn Rodrigues-Birkett said the proposed text “lacked attribution in a number of key areas.” While it includes condemnation of Hamas, there was no mention of the Israeli authorities.
“To whom is the demand for compliance with obligations under international law [addressed to?]… Who is preventing the use of all available routes to the Gaza Strip? Who does not respect deconfliction and notification mechanisms?,” she said.
“We know the answers to these questions… Why then were the relevant demands in this resolution not clearly addressed to the occupying power, not even once?”
Israel’s war on Gaza updates: Russia, China veto US resolution on Gaza
US resolution ‘an effective green light for Israel to mount a military operation in Rafah’, says Russian envoy.
gavreid
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US draft resolution ‘one-sided’: Palestinian envoy
Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian ambassador to the UN, says the US draft resolution was rejected for “obvious reasons”, calling it “one-sided” and noting that it mentioned Israel only once.“We reject framing what is happening as a terrorism issue. It is a genocide against the entire population of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip,” he told reporters, expressing support for another draft resolution put forward by elected members of the Security Council that is expected to be voted on soon.
“The essence of it is calling for an immediate ceasefire during the month of Ramadan, which we support because we want to save the lives of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip and we want to have massive humanitarian assistance to the level of the needs of our people,” Mansour said.
“We are against the forced transfer inside Gaza and outside Gaza, and we reject totally any attempts to storm and attack the Rafah area, including the city of Rafah.”
Israel’s war on Gaza updates: Russia, China veto US resolution on Gaza
US resolution ‘an effective green light for Israel to mount a military operation in Rafah’, says Russian envoy.
gavreid
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Spain, Ireland, Malta, Slovenia agree to recognise Palestinian state
Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says he expects his country’s recognition of Palestine to happen during the current four-year legislature that began last year.He told reporters an agreement was reached after meeting with his Irish, Maltese and Slovenian counterparts on the sidelines of a European Council gathering on Friday.
“We are agreed the only way to achieve lasting peace and stability in the region is through implementation of a two-state solution, with Israeli and Palestinian states living side-by-side, in peace and security,” said a statement by Ireland after the meeting.
Arab states and the European Union agreed at a meeting in Spain in November that an independent Palestinian state is the only answer to the Middle East conflict.
Israel’s war on Gaza updates: Russia, China veto US resolution on Gaza
US resolution ‘an effective green light for Israel to mount a military operation in Rafah’, says Russian envoy.
Enfield boy
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Good that some nations are prepared to do the right thing but at the rate the IDF are going there won't be any Palestinians left to populate that state at the end of the 4 year legislature.
gavreid
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2-state has been dead for decades if it ever was a viable solution.
Enfield boy
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Without the removal of settlers it is/was/always will be. But how can a single state solution work either with the ingrained attitude of the Israelis?
gavreid
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Not with US/EU support it won't
gavreid
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WATCH: Israeli bulldozers at Gaza’s al-Shifa Hospital
This Al Jazeera verified video from inside the perimeter of the besieged al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City shows how Israeli bulldozers and armoured vehicles are wreaking havoc.Intense battles have been ongoing for days inside and in the vicinity of the hospital for days, with the latest Israeli military operation at al-Shifa coming months after it first laid siege to the key medical complex.
Translation: Israeli occupation forces carry out bulldozing operations inside al-Shifa Medical Complex in the city of Gaza.
Finnegan
I like a bit of a cavort
The same way South Africa dismantled apartheid and the North of Ireland reached The Good Friday Agreement, with the ingrained attitude of both the Afrikaaners and Ulster Unionists: a lot of pain, difficulty and discomfort on both sides; but ultimately reconciliation and a mutual recognition that the status quo simply can’t endure.
I point to Ireland as a whole as an example of substantial change that once seemed almost impossible. Twenty five years ago the south was an oppressive, backward Catholic theocracy and the north was a de facto apartheid statelet. Now the south has legalised divorce and same-sex marriage, and has an openly gay Taoiseach, while the north has a Catholic, Republican, Sinn Fein first minister. All unthinkable thirty years ago.
gavreid
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JVL Introduction
An insightful essay by Maya Rosen on how biblical scholars and rabbis have dealt with what are, on the surface, genocidal commands in the Bible.The literalism of Netanyahu, quoting Deuteronomy’s “Remember what Amalek did to you” as a justification of and incitement to mass murder in Gaza is at odds with the rabbinic tradition’s reckoning with biblical text as Rosen explains.
This rich tradition offers many interpretations and reworkings, discussed by Rosen below. One suggests that the sin of Amalek, requiring punishment, was the use of force against those with less power. What resonance today!
RK
This article was originally published byJewish Currents News Bulletin on Fri 22 Mar 2024.Read the original here.
Enfield boy
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But as some who experienced SA apartheid have said, what Israel have done is worse. The Afrikaaners wanted cheap labour, the Israelis want to exterminate.
Finnegan
I like a bit of a cavort
Of course, nobody’s saying it will be an easy process. But there’s only two viable options: one state- secular, democratic and equality for all regardless of religion and ethnicity, or the total ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
The US is highly unlikely to allow the second option, not out of any humanitarian concern, but rather the instability it would cause in the West Bank and throughout the Middle East, indeed the whole world. It would risk setting Egypt (historically the 2nd highest recipient of US aid) alight, not to mention vast swathes of the Arab world, and a real risk of discontent spreading even wider.
gavreid
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Labour [running scared] presses foreign secretary as human rights groups seek judicial review of government’s refusal to ban arms exports
Lammy’s move comes as two human rights groups have been given permission for an oral hearing to seek a judicial review of the government’s refusal to ban arms exports to Israel.
www.theguardian.com
Lammy’s move comes as two human rights groups have been given permission for an oral hearing to seek a judicial review of the government’s refusal to ban arms exports to Israel.
Cameron urged to publish Foreign Office legal advice on Israel’s war in Gaza
Labour presses foreign secretary as human rights groups seek judicial review of government’s refusal to ban arms exports
Richard Lines
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An atrocity took place against both military and civilians in the "occupied Territories"????????? No attack occurred "in Israel".
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Richard
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PaulMB
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Of course it was in Israel.
PaulMB
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A 2-state solution is still, I believe, the only possible one. It would require the support of "the West", of the reasonable Arab states, and above all of Israel's Arab neighbours. The settlers could easily be removed, just as they were pulled out of Gaza in 2006, with a government other than Bibi's (who is already a political zombie) in the interest of peace and security. But I fear that the Iran/Russia team would do everything possible to sabotage this, at least as things stand today.
Bear in mind that between 1948 and 1967 Jordan, Egypt and Syria occupied the West Bank and Gaza, and did nothing to built a "State of Palestine." Jordan actually annexed the West Bank.
ff1d1l
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Of course you would say that, otherwise it would be legitimate resistance against an occupying power.
Wouldn't it?
Actually it'd still be a war crime, as a sizeable proportion of the death toll were civilians who perished, though by Hamas' hand or at the hand of IDF helicopter gunships would require investigation.