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University of Manchester forcibly evicts rent strikers.

mandryka said:
How could the eviction have been a breach of their rights?
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"Legal experts who spoke to Novara Media expressed concern that Monday’s events could represent false imprisonment – and that Wednesday’s may have infringed their human rights. Francesca Cociani, a solicitor at protest-specialist firm Hodge Jones & Allen, said: “As peaceful protestors, the students were exercising their [rights under] article 10 [freedom of speech] and article 11 [freedom of assembly] [of the] ECHR [European Convention on Human Rights], which together form your right to protest."
 
Weekender said:
https://novaramedia.com/2023/03/22/...strikers-in-potential-breach-of-human-rights/
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The National Eviction Team are protestor eviction and traveller removal experts ... We are discreet, working to ensure that the protestor eviction or common law eviction is undertaken with due care and consideration, avoiding conflict and reducing tension wherever possible, for those present and for your reputation management.

If I was 18 there's no way I would apply to Manchester having seen this.

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Ponty said:
Reputation cuts both ways. Of course, if rent is paid, nothing happens.
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If the university is concerned about it's income I'd suggest images like this are likely to be far more detrimental than the loss of rent from, according to the university, just a handful of students.
 
paulfromcamden said:
If the university is concerned about it's income I'd suggest images like this are likely to be far more detrimental than the loss of rent from, according to the university, just a handful of students.
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Agree, it does appear a little extreme. Must be history and a back story to it.
 
Ponty said:
Agree, it does appear a little extreme. Must be history and a back story to it.
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Well how else could the owner of the property have evicted the tenants? Presumably all other avenues had been exhausted in the courts. The tenants were, I guess, not cooperating with the bailiffs despite the warrant, and they were physically and mentally in good health. It looks to me that the gentlemen from the National Eviction Team were trained in how to carry out their work safely when they meet with resistance.

Weekender said:
"Legal experts who spoke to Novara Media expressed concern that Monday’s events could represent false imprisonment – and that Wednesday’s may have infringed their human rights. Francesca Cociani, a solicitor at protest-specialist firm Hodge Jones & Allen, said: “As peaceful protestors, the students were exercising their [rights under] article 10 [freedom of speech] and article 11 [freedom of assembly] [of the] ECHR [European Convention on Human Rights], which together form your right to protest."
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I can see there may be a problem with what happened on Monday. I just don't see the problem with the eviction on Wednesday vis-a-vis the tenants' rights.
 
They were occupying the Simon Building, according to the news reports. That's not a hall of residence, it's home to the Faculty of Engineering.
 
I wonder if they evicted the rats from the student residences. It might have cost them less. They're pretty clearly skimping on maintenance and cleaning, while allowing the properties to become rundown as they prepare to sell off the site.

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/20...rent-strike-over-mould-and-rat-infested-halls

This is, now derelict, Hall is part of the same site. It's no wonder there are vermin around.

https://mancunion.com/2022/12/14/gh...t-why-is-the-owens-park-tower-still-standing/
 
mandryka said:
Well how else could the owner of the property have evicted the tenants? Presumably all other avenues had been exhausted in the courts. The tenants were, I guess, not cooperating with the bailiffs despite the warrant, and they were physically and mentally in good health. It looks to me that the gentlemen from the National Eviction Team were trained in how to carry out their work safely when they meet with resistance.



I can see there may be a problem with what happened on Monday. I just don't see the problem with the eviction on Wednesday vis-a-vis the tenants' rights.
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As I see it the two main problems are 1) the university’s refusal to recognise this as a dispute over the treatment of students - its insistence on treating it as a matter of property rights, to be enforced as brutally as as necessary and without regard to the rights and wellbeing of the students in their care and 2) landlords. Sorry you have too many rights and this is how that cashes out: paramilitaries assaulting young people at a place of learning.
 
Students historically like to push boundaries.

They have learned their first important life lesson ... don't occupy buildings you shouldn't be in.

Lesson over.
 
Sue Pertwee-Tyr said:
it's home to the Faculty of Engineering.
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unless i am mistaken it isnt. There actually isnt a Faculty of Engineering, there is a Faculty of Science and Engineering which is a collection of schools. The Simon building is an admin (a variety of Biological and Medical science related Schools) and teaching building. IRRC it also contains their HR department. There is a School of Engineering, but i don't think they are based in the the Simon building as are none of their constituent departments

I think this is the 4th building the students have occupied - i hear from people i know at manchester that previously John Owens Building, Samuel Alexander and one of the Engineering buildings were occupied
 
ff1d1l said:
Pay good money for something, don't get it, have the price of the next installment on your ripoff hiked, occupy, shurely?
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Life doesn't work that way, perhaps you should take some lessons.

If you're unhappy, pursue this in a legal way.
 
RoA said:
If you're unhappy, pursue this in a legal way.
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Think they're not going to be in enough debt - I'm afraid the University has history. They attract students on the basis of their wealth - fur coat and no knickers...
 
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