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Half way to Infinity
Johnson?No politician is as culpable for the appeasement of Putin to her own political and her country's mercantile self-interest as she is.
Johnson?No politician is as culpable for the appeasement of Putin to her own political and her country's mercantile self-interest as she is.
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Putin orders Russian nuclear forces to be put on alert (BBC news). This can’t carry on, somebody take him out FFS.
Sadly she’s not a patch on the original.
Except the issue with the report is not the redactions but rather scope. It literally didn't look at Russian influence in UK politics.
You are a ****ing maniac.
While not in total disagreement with the moral principle for ‘taking out’ leader’s of countries with a nuclear deterrent on alert, wouldn’t there be quite a global death count by now if we did?Putin orders Russian nuclear forces to be put on alert (BBC news). This can’t carry on, somebody take him out FFS.
Governments around the world have spent the last forty years making asset seizure, or even value impairment, effectively impossible through combinations of domestic law, international treaty and ISDR mechanisms
I would like to think that there won't be a need to take out the oligarchs, simply stopping them from spending their time in London, St Tropez and Val d'Isere ought to work. Throw the kids out of the expensive schools, make them totally isolated. Then Putin will be invited to go into the drawing room with a stiff drink and do the decent thing.If "Dead Hand" and Putin's special briefcase are what is claimed any strike will result in total destruction. Hopefully the Russian generals can smell the covfefe and Putin suddenly developes a severe case of Covid, has to go to hospital and is next seen receiving a state funeral. As the "robber barons" are really in charge the only other hope is special forces/CIA etc hit a few oligarchs, pour encourager les autres.
In times of war, we should match our opponent ;D Talking will do nothing.
And what would be the consequences of such action?In times of war, we should match our opponent ;D Talking will do nothing.
Like all politicians that hold office that long, Merkel has had her share of howlers. The decision to pull the plug on nuclear in an emotional response to Fukushima and to curry favour with the green component of German public opinion was a corker, and ISTR many people here said so at the time (incl. one poster in Japan). OTOH she hasn't joined the Gazprom board yet, contrary to some of her predecessors; most people supported her decision on refugees (maybe something we disagree on?), and the course of events have proved her right on that one.There was much gnashing of teeth and wailing on this forum a few weeks ago at the end of the Merkel era. No politician is as culpable for the appeasement of Putin to her own political and her country's mercantile self-interest as she is. The has abased and disgraced both Germany and Europe, and I would go so far as to say has betrayed Ukraine by her permissiveness to Putin.
I do hope that those who held her in such high regard here give themselves time for reflection, if they can take pause from Russian cash and the tories for long enough.
What is the evidence that taking out Putin would see a regime change for the better as far as the West is concerned? If there is any it needs to be compared with the evidence that any regime change will likely be even more reactionary and even more justified in pointing to western aggression to justify extreme nationalism to promote jingoistic paranoia and make another Ukraine a matter of timeThe primary objective must be to take out Putin now. Will his regime have any appetite to continue post his elimination?
Quite apart from the philosophical debate about the morality of eliminating foreign leaders we happen to disagree with, don't you think that's a tad risky considering said leader controls the second largest nuclear arsenal? What happens, for instance, if you end up nuking one of his body doubles instead, and the real Vlad gets really mad at yer?The primary objective must be to take out Putin now. Will his regime have any appetite to continue post his elimination?