Jonathan Ribee said:
It's a tough choice, certainly. I think Ultravox should be lauded for their pioneering use of shoulder pads and smoke machines in videos. I'm sure the music was just an incidental side issue.
I must leap to the defence of Ultravox! Agreed that Ultravox should best be buried under a pile of rotting shoulder pads.
Ultravox! (the excalamtion mark refers mostly to a prior incarnation) made three stunning, awesome and
blistering albums without any Midge Ure's ****. My second cousin (twice removed) John Foxx** headed them up in the 77-79 when Gary Numan was Tubeway Army and Spandau Ballet were still getting their hair right.
I saw Ultravox! play at the Marquee in 77/78 I lied about my age to get in. The
Live RETRO EP was out, they'd teamed up with Steve Lillywhite and Brian Eno and released "ROckwrok" on Island storming the alternative charts (before the "indie" charts) with "
Young Savage" getting zero airplay -- it was harsh, raucous, short and nasty -- they sounded like they meant it!
Their Second LP
Ha! Ha! Ha! is Industrial-meets-Punk with great grinding slabs of distorted machinery, feedback and ground up processed violin: with spat-out lyrics like: "
Someone told me Jesus was the devil's lover/while we masturbated over magazine covers" plus
two versions of
Hiroshima Mon Amour... (a synth-pop version with a Roland 808 drum break that Genesis blatantly ****ed over while thieving for
Duke) the real deal was a grinding punk version which formed the protoype for some of
Nine Inch Nails' earlier werk... no one knew it at the time but it was "the future" -- art-school-grindcore-electro-goth-collides-with-J.G.Ballard. Sort-of early Roxy Music meets punk... and this
still gets regular iPod earplay down at the gym. Its that good an LP!
Systems of Romance, the third LP (dropped exclamation, still with Foxx) is altogether calmer. I'd discovered Tangerine Dream by now and liked their change in emphasis
Quiet Men and
Slow Motion marked the first of the productions at Conny Plank's studio in Köln... cleaning them up, pointing the way ahead. Robin Simon left
Neo to join and his guitar playing on this is unique and controlled (he went on to join Howard DeVoto's
Magazine). While Andy Summers (technically the better guitarist) struggled with the early GR-synth on
Zenyatta Mondatta (it never tracked all that great and crashed if you over-did it), Ultravox took it and pushed it way beyond its capabilities. Some great Foxx songs about loss of memory, loss of identity, shifting consciousness and yes... songs about architecture (whom OMD were influenced by).
If we're singing about buildings then its certainly time for New Romatics I guess...
For me this was where it went horribly wrong. John Foxx went solo to make a hit single that everyone thought was about "Underpants", he made two inspired LPs that predated Click-Pop minimalism (
Metamatic and
The Garden) then Foxx "did a Fergal Sharkey" in his case he tried to write non-electronic songs with acoustic guitars and IMV went belly-up for 15 years... He's doing good stuff again now though... I think he and Bill Nelson (
Be Bop Deluxe,
Red Noise etc) are doing much the same stuff now.
Ultravox made a load of money and slow-dived towards being a Christmas band...
So
a precis:
Ultravox! = John Foxx. Hard core pre industrial bleak rock from the same camp as Cabaret Voltaire. Nasty, noisy, brutish evolved into art-school songs about dislocation and loss-of-identity. They wanted to be Eno/Manzanera Roxy music.
Ultravox = Midge Ure. Poncy **** from a floppy cuff era of white-face makeup, pouting and serious-twat-faced performances. They became Bryan Ferry's Roxy Music.
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**we're not really related, he went to art school and got an extra x in his name. I went to polytechnic and used all lower case letters.