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The pfm Lego Investment Challenge

Tony L said:
..where is the speculative value as those who really want it can likely just go buy it anyway? ....
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Items that soar in value are desirable versions of popular items that were not kept carefully and maybe hard to buy for speculation - Led Zep first pressings and so on.
Something marketed to collectors and that takes a lot of space could easily fall in value unless it is made in deliberately low numbers
 
Agreed. Assuming sufficient limiting and wide appeal things marketed at specialists/collectors can certainly do well though, e.g. DCC, Mo-Fi, Nimbus, Classic Records etc audiophile pressings. I have a fair few of those which are worth many, many multiples of their purchase price.

PS To keep the spreadsheet up to date here is where I think I am at present (everything that appears twice is correct, not a typo, I've just not combined as some were bought-in at different prices):

21304 Doctor Who £49.99
21303 WALL•E £39.99
10251 Brick Bank £119.99
75095 Star Wars TIE Fighter™ £169.99
75060 Star Wars Slave I™ £169.99
21306 Yellow Submarine £49.99 (I have two, but I've built one to keep so only counting one)
40222 LEGO Christmas Build Up £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)
40222 LEGO Christmas Build Up £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)
21050 Architecture Studio £138.97
75913 Speed Champions F14 T Scuderia Ferrari £79.93
75156 Star Wars Rogue One Krennic's Imperial Shuttle £0.00 (Tesco 3 for 2 offer with the two sets above)
75911 Speed Champions Mclaren Mercedes Pit Stop £21.97 (Amazon)
76052 Batman™ Classic TV Series £183.99 (Lego Black Friday)
40223 LEGO Snowglobe £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)
40223 LEGO Snowglobe £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)
10243 Creator Parisian Restaurant £128.37
21303 WALL•E £39.99
21304 Doctor Who £33.25 (Tesco 1/3rd off)
75150 Vader’s TIE Advanced vs. A-Wing Starfighter £39.99
75091 Flash Speeder™ £17.49
30446 The Batmobile £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)
76046 Heroes of Justice: Sky High Battle £27.49
75140 Resistance Troop Transporter £29.99
30446 The Batmobile £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)
21309 Saturn V £109.99
5004936 MF Cave Set D160 £0.00 (freebie from Lego.com)

Lego VIP Points discount applied to date -£50.00
Lego catalogue vouchers applied to date -£10.00

Total investment: £1391.36

Not counted in figures above but retaining some resale value (boxes, manual, packaging etc obviously retained):
Built 21306 Yellow Submarine (£49.99)
Built 40320 Volvo L340F Wheel Loader(£169.99)
 
Tony L said:
To keep the spreadsheet up to date here is where I think I am at present (everything that appears twice is correct, not a typo, I've just not combined as some were bought-in at different prices.
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Noted and updated.

Now seems as good a time as any to invite any prospective Lego Investment Challengers to join the current band of five in time for the October spreadsheet. Post your Lego portfolio here (real or imaginary, no-one is about to come to your house to check) together with purchase price and a request to join in. Then every three months we will see whose investment decisions are proving wisest (or luckiest.)
 
I was in Manchester earlier so popped into the Lego shop as much as anything to see if they had any catalogues with discount codes on the back (they didn't) and they had six or seven Saturn Vs on the shelf. I had my VIP card with me so I grabbed another one, theoretically to build, but I'm going to figure out where the hell to put it before I open it! As such it currently sits in limbo between my built and investment categories at present! £105.04 spent as they charged me 5p for a huge bag (factoring £5 VIP redeemed from last Saturn V).

PS I was actually half tempted to buy a few of them as I'm prepared to bet this one will be a great long-term investment. It is arguably the best set Lego have ever produced and it has near universal/global appeal. If they stick to the usual 18 month or so production run I don't see how a sealed one can't escalate big time over the next 10-20 years.
 
davidsrsb said:
The Saturn is unique in that you could put it in your office without looking weird.
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Perhaps if you worked for NASA or aerospace industry. A Mercedes Arcos truck or Volvo front-end loader would look quite normal in an earthmoving company office too.
 
Could someone who has built the Saturn V let me know how tall the large bottom stage is? I'm wondering if it would fit in an Ikea Expidit cube split into its three stages!
 
Tony L said:
I'm struggling to think where to put the Saturn V if I do build it! The Yellow Submarine looks great sitting on one of my Tannoys, the Volvo digger looks fine sitting on the floor in the TV room, but where the heck does one stick a metre high space rocket?
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Perhaps you could make an installation by part-building it and suspending it next to a speaker - take a lead from Méliès

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or maybe Jimi Hendrix?

Chas Chandler: It was one of those nights when everything was going wrong... he took his guitar and threw it at the amp, and this is where the good luck comes into it – the guitar went into the amp and stuck. It was just like an enormous arrow sticking out of this amplifier. The audience thought it was part of the act, the amp just went ‘rmmmmm’, and from that minute nothing else went wrong.
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Tony L said:
Could someone who has built the Saturn V let me know how tall the large bottom stage is? I'm wondering if it would fit in an Ikea Expidit cube split into its three stages!
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From pictures it looks like the first stage is nearly half the total height - so you could be struggling there!
 
davidsrsb said:
The Saturn is unique in that you could put it in your office without looking weird.
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We have the Lego Sydney Opera House in the office. Somewhere we also have the original engineering specs for the real one. Early use of computers to calculate what you can get away with in a concrete structure. I should probably did up some history for Tony's computer exhibit.


Anyway - Lego have not sent me my Saturn 5 yet. I am quite envious. I have the same level of anticipation I had before assembling an Airfix B-24 Liberator (aged 7). Which is nice, if perhaps a little embarrassing as well.
 
Spike said:
The first stage is 41cm.
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Thanks, certainly removes that option as a display place. I guess one could store it in parts in the wine rack!

PS Jonathan, they had a fair few at the Arndale Lego store yesterday, so it might be possible to grab one and cancel your lego.com order. I've never tried cancelling, so no idea if it is as easy as with say Amazon.
 
Tony L said:
Thanks, certainly removes that option as a display place. I guess one could store it in parts in the wine rack!

PS Jonathan, they had a fair few at the Arndale Lego store yesterday, so it might be possible to grab one and cancel your lego.com order. I've never tried cancelling, so no idea if it is as easy as with say Amazon.
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I'll have look tomorrow. Thanks!
 
I phoned them up this afternoon and they said they have quite a few. Planning to pick one up tomorrow. Not sure whether it's to open or not!
 
Snagged one earlier, was still a pile of them out on the shelf near the till. This one will replace my grandfathers (aged 12+ it says, should be OK for 94) birthday present and the one on order from Lego online I'll assemble next rainy day after it get here.
 
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